Yay! Refit season is here!!

[mightytinypirate]

Weather has finally begun to be nice enough that I can start my spring refit on my 1974 Jeanneau Love Love. Not a whole lot to do, mainly cosmetic work.

First task, renew the teak cockpit floor. Previous owner had simply put a couple of coats of varnish over it, most of which had worn away.

I sanded the floor back to bare wood, and since I prefer a natural finish, and I am landlocked so no Saltwater issues, I applied several coats of high end extreme environment Decking oil. Wood just soaked the oil up and will last the season without any problems. I only have to re-oil once a year now to keep it looking nice. 

Next job is removing the interior wood work for much the same treatment. 


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[zaphod]

Wow! That is MUCH nicer looking than varnish! Nice work!

[mightytinypirate]

thanks! I much prefer a natural "satin" kind of finish, and the added bonus is that it isn't slippery when it gets wet 

[MalcolmP]

Looking good. Please post some photos on our Gallery too, we only have a few of the Love Love at the moment

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[mightytinypirate]

Will do!

[Fabrice-Erta]

 Nice work....I really like the natural aspect.

nice HD as well, Softail ?

✌️

[Trevor]

wow...that is gorgeous...I really love the love love refit.......

[mightytinypirate]

Mar 19, 2019 23:15:07 GMT Fabrice-Erta said:

 Nice work....I really like the natural aspect.

nice HD as well, Softail ?

✌️

DynaGlide 

[mightytinypirate]

In the latest instalment of the Jeanneau Love Love refit, Today i got the companion way boards done. Same process as for the Cockpit floor. They scrubbed up rather nicely..


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Top board finished compared to the bottom board. 


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[jy51]

Amazing work, looks better than new.  

Always wondered what it's like to sail on the Swiss lakes.  I drive past many of them twice a year, on my way from Basel through the Gotthard tunnel to the Italian boarder mostly in the winter, never tire of the spectacular views.  I assume with the mountains, wind can become very unpredictable, are there shallows where you can anchor for lunch or is it deep up to the shore line, is the bottom rock? 

[mightytinypirate]

Mar 21, 2019 8:59:54 GMT jy51 said:

Amazing work, looks better than new.  

Always wondered what it's like to sail on the Swiss lakes.  I drive past many of them twice a year, on my way from Basel through the Gotthard tunnel to the Italian boarder mostly in the winter, never tire of the spectacular views.  I assume with the mountains, wind can become very unpredictable, are there shallows where you can anchor for lunch or is it deep up to the shore line, is the bottom rock? 

jy51, lake sailing is certainly fun, Luzern lake where I am is big enough that you can easily do overnighters on weekends, plenty of places to stop and explore, and you never get tired of the mountain views. Alpine winds can get tricky, and take some getting used to, but all part of the fun. Its a bit weird sometimes as you often need to check the weather 3 valleys away to get an idea of what your own local weather is going to be like as there are micro climates all over that impact local patterns.
Plenty of shallows all around the shorelines where you can anchor for lunch or overnight, bottom ranges from gravel to loose rocks (large and small) to weed covered mud.

Maybe we should meet up sometime in summer for day sail on one of you trips to Italy

[mightytinypirate]

I removed a companionway rail the other day to take to a carpenter to see if I could get new ones made. The old ones are the originals, 44 years old, and never really looked after, and so far gone that replacement is probably the best solution.

So off I go to the carpenter with rail in hand, discuss if he can make me 2 new ones, naturally he can, for 450 Swiss Bucks!!!!! (about the same in USD). After collecting my jaw from the floor, me and my rail said thanks for your time and legged it.

So now I'm thinking, I need new companionway rails, how to refurb the old ones? I dug out the sander and stripped the rail down to see what Im working with. There's a section that is so dried out that it is little better than dirt and I had to cut it out. Thinking I'll drill and insert some small dowls for support and reshape it with wood filler, then give the the rail several good lashings of penetrating epoxy. It won't be super pretty but it will last another season till I find a permanent solution.



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[MalcolmP]

Teak is great looking and authentic, but you could consider getting stainless tube bent and welded like many of the newer Jeanneau's

[rene460]

Hi Mighty tiny pirate,

Really great work on the storm boards and cockpit floor, it looks really great.  And provides a big visual impact which will encourage you in some of the time consuming jobs that do not look so obvious.  A great start.

On those teak rails, have you considered making them yourself?  I can’t quite see the cross section  but it it really looks like something you could get quite close enough with a router and a couple of coving and rounding over bits.  The lower cost for just buying plain teak would easily cover the cost of a good router.  

But first, I would suggest applying the water thin penetrating epoxy before you do the filling, they do a really good job of any rotten wood, but will not get past the filler, leaving the rot to continue under the filler.  I would even try making a dam around the area with a good poly tape, so you can really pour enough on for a good soak.  Then building up with your preferred filler to the original shape.

Alternatively with a router you could machine a bit more access to the area to hold a little pour of the penetrating brew, and even let in a little bit of new timber instead of the filler.  Sure you will see the glue line, but it will look like, and really be a proper job.

Looking forward to following along with your progress.

rene460

[vasko]

Motorbike looks amazing

[mightytinypirate]

Rene460, some good advice there, many thanks. Definitely will consider scarfing in a piece of wood rather than filler, yes it will look nicer.

As for making my own, it would be relatively easy, but I don't own a router and the cost of one here is almost as much as having new rails made. Im also on a really slim budget so i need to work with what I have to hand. I enjoy the challenge of restoring/fixing old stuff anyway

I may have a cunning plan B... Noticed in the hardware centre today that I can buy prefabricated stair banister rails that are very similar in profile for only 14 bucks a meter. A nice stain and a clear lacquer or epoxy will have them good for a season or two, and would be a  decent, if only temporary, solution.

Vasko, if you're curious, bike in the background is 1976 Norton 750, the sad looking one beside it is a 1974 triumph Bonneville thats getting its motor rebuilt. Out of shot is 1952 Norton 500 custom cafe racer lurking in the corner.

[jy51]

Mar 26, 2019 22:22:18 GMT mightytinypirate said:

Mar 21, 2019 8:59:54 GMT jy51 said:

Amazing work, looks better than new.  

Always wondered what it's like to sail on the Swiss lakes.  I drive past many of them twice a year, on my way from Basel through the Gotthard tunnel to the Italian boarder mostly in the winter, never tire of the spectacular views.  I assume with the mountains, wind can become very unpredictable, are there shallows where you can anchor for lunch or is it deep up to the shore line, is the bottom rock? 

jy51, lake sailing is certainly fun, Luzern lake where I am is big enough that you can easily do overnighters on weekends, plenty of places to stop and explore, and you never get tired of the mountain views. Alpine winds can get tricky, and take some getting used to, but all part of the fun. Its a bit weird sometimes as you often need to check the weather 3 valleys away to get an idea of what your own local weather is going to be like as there are micro climates all over that impact local patterns.
Plenty of shallows all around the shorelines where you can anchor for lunch or overnight, bottom ranges from gravel to loose rocks (large and small) to weed covered mud.

Maybe we should meet up sometime in summer for day sail on one of you trips to Italy

Thank you, sounds a great idea, although summers normally see us sailing the Mediterranean, having said that we were in Switzerland for a wedding last July.  We also have family who live overlooking lake Zugg, we visited the nearby marina one year and was surprised to see some big yachts.

[mightytinypirate]

The refit and the quest for Companionway rails continues!

Decided I would refurbish rather than compromise on something that is "almost" the same. But to do so required a little bit of surgery.

I cut out the offending Rotten part back to good wood, found a random piece of wood in the shop and rough cut a piece to scarf in. A good helping of good quality wood glue, and some sanding afterwards has things all fixed. just need to stain the new piece then epoxy the whole rail. 

Doesn't look too bad for a non professional effort and it will do the job for another season or 2.



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[rene460]

Hi Mightytinypirate, I am sure I saw a photo with the piece scarfed in, it looked like a good job, much better than filler. A coat of stain will get that timber very close.  (But the photo seems to be not showing at the moment.  Any others noticing this also?)

Also this page is being quite stubborn about loading up, perhaps it is my internet or something.  Strange.

But the main point is another great step in your progress.

rene460

PS - It all seems to be loading up OK now.  I was in a crowded environment, now I am back in more normal area all seems ok.

[pipemma]

Nice work! You've got me thinking about cockpit floors again (Chippie in Nidri reckoned about €5k to do my 44i's cockpit floor )

FWIW I recently got a pile of Iroko delivered to me here in Laax by Howells in Poole to make my new cockpit table (thread jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/7163/replacing-cockpit-table-on-so44i - pics on p 2). £60 for the delivery and £232 for the wood (although I'm expecting a VAT & customs bill from DHL at some point). My local timber guys in Ilanz, when asked about teak, said "sure we can get it for you but it's stupid expensive" - when the Swiss say sth is "stupid expensive"... . Maybe worth talking to Howells for future stuff? I got my boards cut and planed to length/width so I'm sure you could ask them to do sth similar for your handrails as a longer-term solution

BTW count us in if you and JY51 meet up for a sail on the Vierwaldstättersee - we'd enjoy a tootle over the Oberalp up to you I have my D-Schein. We used to run a dinghy school on the Zurichsee but the winds were so fickle it wasn't viable long-term (hence moving to the mountains, closer to Ancona, and concentrating on our Greek end)

[pipemma]

Saw these in AWN the other day, they’ve moved to just above th Horgen motorway junction (used to be in Technopark in Zurich)

120cm long, 38 chuffs, hope it helps

[mightytinypirate]

Apr 13, 2019 10:10:59 GMT pipemma said:

Nice work! You've got me thinking about cockpit floors again (Chippie in Nidri reckoned about €5k to do my 44i's cockpit floor )

FWIW I recently got a pile of Iroko delivered to me here in Laax by Howells in Poole to make my new cockpit table (thread jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/7163/replacing-cockpit-table-on-so44i - pics on p 2). £60 for the delivery and £232 for the wood (although I'm expecting a VAT & customs bill from DHL at some point). My local timber guys in Ilanz, when asked about teak, said "sure we can get it for you but it's stupid expensive" - when the Swiss say sth is "stupid expensive"... . Maybe worth talking to Howells for future stuff? I got my boards cut and planed to length/width so I'm sure you could ask them to do sth similar for your handrails as a longer-term solution

BTW count us in if you and JY51 meet up for a sail on the Vierwaldstättersee - we'd enjoy a tootle over the Oberalp up to you I have my D-Schein. We used to run a dinghy school on the Zurichsee but the winds were so fickle it wasn't viable long-term (hence moving to the mountains, closer to Ancona, and concentrating on our Greek end)

Hey Pipemma, yeah, you know its pricey when even the swiss say its stupid expensive  . This AWN store, who are they? Haven't heard of them. Horgen is only a short ride away so worth going for a look if nothing else. BauHaus over in Schlieren has a decent sized "Nautic" section as well but a bit of hike...

[mightytinypirate]

So I had a bit of delay, d**n motorbike needed fixing. Anyhow, thats sorted and managed to get the one rail I finished back on the boat, and pull the other, do some surgery on it as well, oil it up and it'll be ready to go on the boat tomorrow.

A couple of comparison pics of restored and pre restoration. The hatch rails are 44 years old, I honestly don't think they've see any love for at least 20 of those years, but they came up really nice. Teak is amazing wood.

Oh, and restored the tiller as well, turns out after sanding it, it is yellow teak instead of the red (goes the same silver color over time though). But now its been sanded and oiled it kinda looks out place now 


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[mightytinypirate]

Apr 23, 2019 19:13:40 GMT mightytinypirate said:

Apr 13, 2019 10:10:59 GMT pipemma said:

FWIW I recently got a pile of Iroko delivered to me here in Laax by Howells in Poole to make my new cockpit table (thread jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/7163/replacing-cockpit-table-on-so44i - pics on p 2). £60 for the delivery and £232 for the wood (although I'm expecting a VAT & customs bill from DHL at some point). My local timber guys in Ilanz, when asked about teak, said "sure we can get it for you but it's stupid expensive" - when the Swiss say sth is "stupid expensive"... . Maybe worth talking to Howells for future stuff? I got my boards cut and planed to length/width so I'm sure you could ask them to do sth similar for your handrails as a longer-term solution

BTW count us in if you and JY51 meet up for a sail on the Vierwaldstättersee - we'd enjoy a tootle over the Oberalp up to you I have my D-Schein. We used to run a dinghy school on the Zurichsee but the winds were so fickle it wasn't viable long-term (hence moving to the mountains, closer to Ancona, and concentrating on our Greek end)

Hey Pipemma, yeah, you know its pricey when even the swiss say its stupid expensive  . This AWN store, who are they? Haven't heard of them. Horgen is only a short ride away so worth going for a look if nothing else. BauHaus over in Schlieren has a decent sized "Nautic" section as well but a bit of hike...

just looked AWN up on the interweb, VERY DANGEROUS SHOP for me to walk into, looks like it has the capacity to liberate all funds in the wallet 

[pipemma]

AWN is originally German and very big there. The Swiss branch is literally just above the A3 service station at the Horgen junction. If you’re coming over Hirzel, head down the hill past the Hanegg restaurant and take the first Horgen turn on the left, which is the road to the motorway junction, then hang a right & immediate left just before the service station

If you’re heading in that direction there’s also Compass in Altendorf, but they were asking chf 10 more than AWN for the same tin of varnish. We impulse-bought a couple of really nice reading lamps in AWN just before they came away and they are now fitted (see pic)