JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 3, 2019 22:21:36 GMT
Hi, Finally, I managed to buy a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 30i (lifting keel version) from 2012. Very happy with that When I had the chance to survey the boat, I take the opportunity to sail it a little bit but I still have some doubts, which I'm trying to clarify prior to cross the Biscay heading to Portugal. Should anyone help me to clarify the following I will be more than appreciated: . sailing performanceI found these 2 polars jieter.github.io/orc-data/site/?#ESP/ESP10224_C and jieter.github.io/orc-data/site/?#NOR/NOR14710 a little bit different one from the other. Should I expect these SOG with a cleaned hull? . motoring performanceI found a review on YM (jul 2009) referring that "Flat-out we were making over 8knts" and that the cruising speed is around 6Knts (at 2300 RPM) with a two blade propeller. Should I expect these values with the standard three blades propeller? What will be the consumption at the cruising speed? I also felt a slight vibration on the cockpit. Is this normal? . going asternAs the boat has twin rudders, how is the behavior when going astern? More difficult to steer than a "regular" boat with only one rudder? Any effects of prop wash and prop walk? Just another question (not related to performances): is there any SO 30i owner that has already installed additional service batteries (the boat comes only with a 70AH for the engine and another one for service, which seems very short for handling the autopilot during a long period). Do you think it could be installed on the opposite side of the existent batteries? Please, see the red rectangle in the attached draw - www.dropbox.com/s/6jmu4wjkey87rik/PastedGraphic-1.png?dl=0)www.23hq.com/Jeanneau/photo/52243896/originalThanks in advance for all the possible help. Best regards, Jorge
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Post by rene460 on Mar 3, 2019 22:53:11 GMT
Hi Jorge,
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your purchase. I am sure it will give you and your family and friends loads of fun and enjoyment.
You have already noticed that I also have an SO 30i, not much earlier, and nine years later no regrets. Though we sail on an estuary Lake system rather than open waters, the boat was sailed round from Melbourne, some 300 miles in not the most friendly waters by a professional crew as I don’t have the confidence to try that.
I was about to start my day when I noticed your post so not too much detail now, but I will return later today or tomorrow.
I find polars most most useful as an indication of the best achievable sailing angles to aim for gently, rather than as an achievable performance. I don’t know if the ones you have are for the lift keel, but if they are for the deep fixed keel they may be unachievable for us.
I now have a feathering prop, but my memory from the original fixed prop was about 7 knots flat out and easy cruising at about 6 at about 2900. Again, see what you get, and record what rpm and boat speed (by gps) at wide open throttle for a few minutes each time you get out. Changes are really more important than absolute values. Real performance depends so much on wind, waves, weight of all your cruising gear and supplies etc. so theoretical figures or others performance not more than general interest.
Fuel consumption estimate for your trip is best based on some runs you deliberately do at your comfortable cruising rpm, say 2800 -2900 rpm, by running say three or four hours from a full tank then filling up to measure consumption. Then allow a good margin for adverse conditions. You may need a jerry can lashed on to the push pit rails to be sure you have some to get into port when you get there. It’s only the cost of the jerry can and funnel, as you will eventually put it in the tank and use it.
Going astern is great, but requires a bit of speed for steerage, (as does forwards) then it is excellent. Stand forward of the wheel or tiller facing backwards, steer like a car, throttle lever pushes the way you want to go. Try it in open space first. But because you need speed for steerage, you need to have confidence you can stop, and a bit of spare width to get into a pen. I go in forwards for this reason, still need to stop reliably, but easy to get the bow between the posts in a cross wind or the odd wave. No need to panic stop, I drop back to idle just before I enter the pen, then into reverse, then with about half a boat length to go, reverse with a bit of throttle. It stops easily and needs a little forwards thrust to get right forward. Gentle and easy. Watch the wind direction.
Back later,
rene460
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JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 4, 2019 0:09:15 GMT
Hi Rene,
Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
I've been reading a considerable number of your posts for the exact reason that I noticed that you are a fantastic member (always willing to help) and, of course, a happy owner of a SO 30i.
I also plan to sail a lot in interior waters, but I think the SO 30i is a fine boat for coastal cruising along Portugal and Spain. Crossing the Biscay will be a great challenge, but I hope to manage a nice weather window.
I'll wait for your additional comments. All your help will be more than welcome.
Best regards,
Jorge
PS. please excuse me for my imperfect English.
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Post by rene460 on Mar 4, 2019 5:09:23 GMT
Hi Jorge,
Ideally, I would try and get a bit more experience with the boat before setting out across the bay, but I am wondering if you have travelled to find the boat and this will be your delivery trip home. This will put a different emphasis on your priorities. I have not sailed that area, but it has a reputation that extends even to here.
I am sure the boat is up to it, but don’t run any risks on that weather window. And of course, much depends on your own previous experience. It is just that boats, cars and caravans often show unexpected issues soon after purchase, whether new or second hand, usually nothing serious, but awkward if you are on your own at sea. So it is worthwhile to do all you can to try out the boat and all its systems to get to know any foibles before you set out. My delivery trip to our lake system involves about 300 nautical miles, mostly in very unfriendly southern ocean waters, and ends with a difficult bar crossing about midway along a Southern Ocean surf beach, with nearly 200 miles on or 100 back to any alternative shelter. Hence my caution about weather, and in my case, using a professional crew, who did a great job. I also got plenty of chance to try everything out during commissioning while still in Melbourne as it was took a bit longer than it should have.
Some other issues that you have raised. Vibration in the cockpit, I assume you mean something you feel through your feet, particularly standing on the blocks behind the wheel, rather than expected Diesel engine noise. Not sure where you best pick it up if you have a tiller version. I suggest that you get the engine alignment checked, and perhaps a service before you set out. It is always awkward with a new boat, you don’t quite know what to expect, and the mind seems to assume the worst at any little noise. In my case it was engine alignment, I know it was checked initially as part of the commissioning, but I think the vibration started after the rigging was re tensioned as is normally necessary after a bit of bedding in. So I would check that you are happy with the rig tension first, then check the engine alignment. It solved the vibration, but not until the cutlass bearing had worn and needed early replacement.
Propwash and propwalk, no useful side thrust to assist mooring. There is a slight effect, when we are stationary, it is quite hard to turn to Port, while Starboard is a lot easier. In dead calm, stationary in the water, there is minimal turning while accelerating to where the rudders chip in. Then steering very positive, forward and reverse.
Extra batteries, the original supply of one house battery is probably only useful for day sailing, instruments, maybe a fridge, but not freezer, and minimal autopilot in my opinion. I have one solar panel, a historical relic, too small for anything but keeping batteries topped up while I am away from the boat, for which it is excellent. I have installed extra house batteries. It may be possible to fit some under the aft berth, but I did not feel there was enough height available. So they went under the port settee, about 300 amp.hours capacity. Easily lasts a day or two away from the dock with no motoring, which we mainly do on good weather, and is normally enough for our sailing pattern. However I would suggest the largest panel you can fit, mounted on the Bimini, maybe two if you will do much time on the anchor. With a good MPPT charge controller. I have also replaced the relay which charges the house battery when the engine is running with a two way voltage sensitive relay, so either solar panel or alternator charges both banks when voltage is present.
And please don’t apologise for your English, I would love to have such a command of another language. Perfectly clear so far, but if I am ever in doubt about what you mean, I am quite able to ask a question. Likewise, if my comment seems to be on the wrong track, please ask again in a slightly different way.
Sorry for the very long post. I hope it gets up to date with your initial queries. It is worth spending some pleasant evening hours trawling through previous posts on the forum. There is a wealth of information there from many experienced contributors. No point learning it all the hard way yourself.
Look for topics on systems rather than specific models as most systems on the boat are common to several models. One exception is possibly the keel/centreboard system, of which there are several variations across the range, and ours is possibly specific to the model. I have contributed one item to hints and tips, and some previous posts, and owe an update from the more recent maintenance, which will help you understand it.
Rene460
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Post by MalcolmP on Mar 4, 2019 8:43:38 GMT
I also plan to sail a lot in interior waters, but I think the SO 30i is a fine boat for coastal cruising along Portugal and Spain. Crossing the Biscay will be a great challenge, but I hope to manage a nice weather window. Hi Jorge Congratulations on getting a Sun Odyssey. The trip south to Portugal can be a fantastic experience, hopefully you will have plenty of time and not have to do a rushed delivery. We have crossed Biscay 3 times and we are confirmed coastal sailors. In the summer there are long periods of settled weather, but also consider the forecasts for swell as well as wind, but yes you should be able to get a good window. We did "short hops" once from La Rochelle are to Getxo (Bilbao) and also one from Les Sables to Santander. These are only in the order of 200nm so if you go around June you will get lots of daylight and should only need one night at sea, which both times have been magical for us, phosphorescence making the dolphins glow ;-) The French Atlantic coast if you have not visited before is fantastic especially the Quiberon bay area and the Atlantic Islands. Equally factor in time for northern Spain - there are a few long coastal hops , but we really enjoyed all of it, especially the Ria's. As your passage planning progresses I am sure that others will be happy to give you more detail too on harbours to visit. Good luck Malcolm
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JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 4, 2019 13:44:30 GMT
Look for topics on systems rather than specific models as most systems on the boat are common to several models. One exception is possibly the keel/centreboard system, of which there are several variations across the range, and ours is possibly specific to the model. I have contributed one item to hints and tips, and some previous posts, and owe an update from the more recent maintenance, which will help you understand it. Rene460 Hi again, Thanks for your continued support. I'll go to La Rochelle one week before my planned date, to check and test the boat thoroughly. Hope to test it near shore with somehow rough conditions prior to starting the crossing. For the crossing, I'll have special attention to the weather conditions. I'm always checking this service fastseas.com, that seems pretty good. As far as the vibration, it is not really big (compared to a 36.1 Benneteau that I used to sail) and the motor was recently aligned (after a new cutlass bearing was installed). However, it never come to my mind the potential impact on the tension in the rigging (and that is something that I included on my to-do list. tks!). For the batteries, I need to tackle that when I'll arrive. The quotation that I got in France to add just one more battery was too high for me. I'll sail with the fridge switched off and will charge the batteries with the motor When back to Aveiro, I'll try to install the extra batteries under the bed (if they will fit) and study the cost of your setup, which seems very nice. As soon as you get that update from your recent keel maintenance, please share it with the community (for me this is one of the worrying points of the boat). Best regards, Jorge
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JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 4, 2019 13:58:36 GMT
I also plan to sail a lot in interior waters, but I think the SO 30i is a fine boat for coastal cruising along Portugal and Spain. Crossing the Biscay will be a great challenge, but I hope to manage a nice weather window. Hi Jorge Congratulations on getting a Sun Odyssey. The trip south to Portugal can be a fantastic experience, hopefully you will have plenty of time and not have to do a rushed delivery. We have crossed Biscay 3 times and we are confirmed coastal sailors. In the summer there are long periods of settled weather, but also consider the forecasts for swell as well as wind, but yes you should be able to get a good window. We did "short hops" once from La Rochelle are to Getxo (Bilbao) and also one from Les Sables to Santander. These are only in the order of 200nm so if you go around June you will get lots of daylight and should only need one night at sea, which both times have been magical for us, phosphorescence making the dolphins glow ;-) The French Atlantic coast if you have not visited before is fantastic especially the Quiberon bay area and the Atlantic Islands. Equally factor in time for northern Spain - there are a few long coastal hops , but we really enjoyed all of it, especially the Ria's. As your passage planning progresses I am sure that others will be happy to give you more detail too on harbours to visit. Good luck Malcolm Hi Malcolm, Thanks for your inputs. One of the nice things from having a Jeanneau is to benefit from this incredible forum and share of knowledge. I only made the Biscay once (in 2001) but with a bigger boat (a First 40.7). It was enough to get a good idea of the terrible conditions we can get!!! My plan is heading straight to La Coruna (and negotiate the depth variation from 4000 to 100m at daylight), make a pit stop and then heading to Bayona. However, it is up to the mother nature to decide the best and safest route. If I'll need it to make in shorter passages, it will be a lovely journey as well. My plan is to be prepared to depart on the 13th of April. I'll keep you informed. Thanks for your support. Jorge
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Post by rene460 on Mar 5, 2019 11:23:35 GMT
Hi Jorge,
Back to your battery comment, of course you are right, that other side is the same height as the Starboard side, however, I felt that I needed more than one extra battery to get sufficient capacity, and if possible, I wanted each of the extra batteries to be higher capacity than the original. Which was why I opted in the end for under the settee.
So long as you know the limits of the single house battery capacity and do enough motor sailing to keep it up to a reasonable level of charge, you will complete your trip ok. The real problems are the fridge and the autopilot. Just keep an eye on the battery voltage. I have a little volt meter that plugs into one of the 12 V outlets so it can be on display all the time. I bought it in an electronics shop. Well I have two actually, I modified a set of multimeter leads to have a 12 V plug on the ends, instead of the normal probes, but the meter needs the occasional battery replacement if you leave it on all the time, which I recommend. Just a cheap meter that does not automatically switch off. But if you will spend a lot of time away from shore power, you will need to think of more battery capacity and sufficient solar panels to recharge each (24 hour) days consumption, with a bit to spare.
Regarding the centreboard, if yours goes up and down without issue, you can put your mind at ease. It is very simple and reliable. My hints and tips article tells you all you need to know if you want to drop it out to inspect it, it is an easy job. I am coming to the point of view that it’s not necessary to do it every haulout unless you have an issue. I will add the final chapter to the hints and tips when I am sure I have fixed the issue which was making the board stay up. Life events have prevented me doing enough sailing to confirm that I have now properly solved the problem, there is no reason to believe that it applies to a board that is moving freely. It will get well tested this week.
The main thing to remember is that the board is a centreboard rather than a keel. It is ballasted so that it goes down when the rope is eased. If it jams, it tends to stay up rather than down. Just keep the push rod and the special short hose fitting on board, but you should not need them often. I have posted the procedure for pushing it down previously, but I can describe it again if you have missed it.
Thank you for your kind comments, it is always nice to hear that someone reads and appreciates them.
rene460
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JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 6, 2019 1:20:50 GMT
Hello,
I understand your reasons for opting to place the batteries under the settee. I'll postpone this task to my arrival and then I will see better what I can do and what I could afford in terms of costs - one or two batteries, solar panel, regulator... ;-).
For the voltmeter, I also bought one of that type, but my recent acquisition was a wireless voltmeter connected to a hall-sensor amperemeter. I've been testing it at home and it works like a charm counting the AH in and out (for less than 30€ - google for VAC8010F). The trick is to adjust the actual capacity (in AH) of the battery and not the one mentioned in its label and control the discharge for not going much more than 50%.
Regarding the centerboard, it worked fine when I tested the boat (in November). The boat will be hauled out and I asked the technician to carefully check the fixation point and the lateral movement. This is something that I would like very much to make by my self, but unfortunately, it must be done in my absence since I can only go to La Rochelle at the beginning of April. But people of the company to whom I bought the boat have been very efficient making step by step what I've agreed with them. I hope that from this point, when the major part of the work will go on, I will receive frequent reports (with photos) to see how things are evolving.
Thank you once again for your willingness to help everybody.
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Post by iancymru on Mar 17, 2019 0:23:53 GMT
Hi Jorge and welcome I have a SO33i and it seems has a similar battery arrangement to your boat, I had a second 70amphr factory fitted in the position marked on your diagram, and like you limited in height for bigger batteries. I have added a third 70amphr battery in a battery box (no lid) alongside directly aft of the second house battery the battery box is screwed in its side to a wooden frame below the bunk. One thing I have to do is adjust the lengths of cable joining the batteries so they are all the same length. I have a 60W solar panel on the coach roof which is great for keeping batteries topped up over winter but not really big enough for fridge and the big items, its given me a taste for solar so now looking to get more probably another 2 x 60wats on the spray hood. I have a viltron ppt charger which a bit pricy but is very good quality and has bluetooth which allows you to set up for battery type and shows battery status and history. One thing to be wary of if you have a similar fuel tank shape to the 33 is the fuel gauge is not very accurate as it goes down slowly at firs then quicker at the end due to the irregular shape of the fuel tank. Best Regards Ian
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JFA_67
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Mar 17, 2019 18:02:55 GMT
Hi Ian,
Thanks for your feedback. I definitely need to upgrade my service battery (adding a second one) and will do that with time when arriving in Portugal. The fact that the SO33i has a battery in the place that I marked is promising for me.
I already have a long list of things to check, once in La Rochelle, prior to my departure, but I'll add that behavior of the fuel gauge. Tks!
Best regards,
Jorge
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Post by iancymru on Mar 18, 2019 17:36:00 GMT
Good luck with it all Jorge, I had the second 70 amp/hr battery fitted when boat was new but still found I needed more. I fitted a battery monitor display in the cockpit so could keep an eye on it when using the autopilot and nav gear and just found an alarm setting on my plotter which can be set to alarm off at a preset voltage which give a bit of peace of mind. It would be interesting to know how you get on with your batteries. All the Best Ian
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Post by zoeimogen on Apr 23, 2019 10:36:10 GMT
Fuel consumption for a 3YM20 engine is at www.yanmarmarine.com/theme/yanmarportal/uploadedFiles/Marine/productDownloads/Pleasure-datasheet/English/2017_datasheets/Yanmar-Datasheet_3YM20.pdf - it claims 2.2l/hour at 2,500rpm which is our usual cruising revs but in practice we find it's a bit under 2l/hour. At that speed with a clean hull, clean fixed three-blade prop, single rudder and fixed keel, we make about 6 knots in completely calm conditions. (Not sure if other engines are fitted to lifting keel boats so check!) Prop walk on our version is negligible. The performance curves are, I suspect, for the performance version with expensive new sails. We don't get that in practice, more like about one half the wind speed in a Force 3-4 close hauled with a new 130% genoa and the original (Now decade-old) mainsail. Performance is nowhere near as good once the apparent wind is behind the beam, but we don't have a cruising chute or spinnaker. I normally passage plan at 5kts STW.
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Post by rene460 on Apr 24, 2019 9:56:37 GMT
Hi Zoeimogen,
The fuel consumption graphs are quite interesting and carry a huge amount of information.
The right hand graph on that spec sheet gives the fuel consumption with rpm as you have noticed, but the thing that is not clear is whether that graph assumes driving a boat propellor or is it at maximum power output. The issue is clearer if you look at the left hand graph. Maximum power is shown, before and after the gear and the power drawn by a properly matched propellor. Note that when you reduce engine speed to 2500 rpm the propellor power requirement is considerably less than the maximum available power at that rpm. Similarly at any other rpm less than the rated rpm. I interpret this to mean that the engine governor is reducing the fuel supply to that needed to drive the propellor. So it is not surprising that you are getting better fuel consumption at lower rpm. Note also that this is Yanmar information, it applies to marine leisure craft of all types, not just Jeanneau.
It it may be that there is another interpretation of these graphs, if so I would be most interested to hear about it.
As a comparison, our 30i is lift keel, twin rudders and with the centreboard mostly up, we regularly use about 1.75 l/hr. This is made up of 2400 rpm to give the 5 knot chanel speed limit out of our marina, about a mile, plus cruising at 2900-3000 rpm for 2 to 4 hour motor cruising when there is no wind, or a short time on slow speed while we haul up sails if there is wind for sailing. So this mixture of our typical activities seems to give that 1.75 l/hr over long periods, which I check each time the engine hours appears at somewhat random intervals.
With hull and propellor clean and no wind, we get 5.8 to 6 knots cruising at 2800 to 3000 rpm. Flat out at 3600 for a few minutes as Yanmar recommends, we get to about 6.8 knots but with huge increase in noise and wave making. And those fuel consumption graphs indicate more than double the fuel consumed. That is the inevitable effect of a displacement hull moving through water at the boundary with air and making waves. When the hull speed catches up with its bow wave speed, a tremendous increases in power is required to get the hull to climb up the back of that bow wave and get on the plane.
From these figures looks like our boats have similar performance considering probable differences in weight of cruising gear on board, propellor, bimini and dodger details etc.
rene460
PS Apple has highlighted that rpm range, it’s not my emphasis.
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Post by mikebz on Apr 24, 2019 13:30:41 GMT
Plotting fuel consumption against crankshaft speed is totally meaningless without knowing the load on the prop. E.g. in flat water and with a following wind your consumption at 3000rpm will be hugely less than punching into a Force 6 with waves. They should really plot consumption against throttle position or torque output.
I replaced the single 70Ah house battery on our SO32 with 2 x 100Ah AGM batteries, and added an alternator-to-battery charger which means they charge a lot faster - the standard 13.8V regulator is woefully inadequate for recharging batteries unless your a motoring for hours & hours.
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guysela
New Member
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Jeanneau Model: 2009 Sun Odyssey 30i
Yacht Name: Lior-E-lee
Home Port: Herzliya
Country: Israel
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Post by guysela on Jun 20, 2019 13:18:47 GMT
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JFA_67
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Jun 23, 2019 18:42:34 GMT
Hello, Sorry for this big delay in giving you feedback. Just like to share that after a nice crossing in the middle of April 2019 from La Rochelle to Aveiro (Portugal) I now can enjoy my nice boat (recently named Triinimar) All went well!!! The boat sails just perfectly in different seas and wind conditions. During the first 24-30 hours, we faced moderated seas and Bf 7 winds managing a good average speed for a 30 foot. The passage in a total of 600nm was made in the following legs: . La Rochelle to La Coruna (368 nm, around 74 hours) . La Coruna to Bayona (112nm, around 22 hours) . Bayona to Aveiro (120nm, around 19 hours) Regarding the boat characteristics, the main drawback I found is the location of the main sheet, which can easily hit a crew member during an accidental gybe. I already made some fixes to the boat, so if any SO 30i owner wants some details I'll be happy to share my experience. I'll try to post here some photos of the passage, hoping it will work. Safe winds! At La Rochelle (the day before) www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367841/originalIn the middle of Biscay Bay www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367871/originalSome waves and cold www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367892/originalAt La Coruna www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367912/originalA nice sunset www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367921/originalEnjoying a beam reach www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367940/originalJust arrived at Aveiro www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367954/originalThe entire route www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367960/originalRecently Beached in Aveiro (remember, its a lifting keel version) www.23hq.com/JFA_67/photo/56367962/original
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Post by MalcolmP on Jun 23, 2019 20:33:46 GMT
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JFA_67
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Jun 23, 2019 22:19:34 GMT
Hi Malcolm, Thanks for the instructions. Now I succeed in posting the photos. Just like to take the opportunity to reinforce the invitation of guysela, by asking owners of SO 30i to join the facebook group he created www.facebook.com/groups/358155278180074/
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Post by rene460 on Jun 24, 2019 9:21:00 GMT
Hi Jorge, well done on a successful trip. It must have been quite an adventure.
Thank you for the great photos. Seeing her tied up at the pontoon, she looks very familiar.
When you have some time it would be great if you made a post or two on the modifications you have made. We would all like to see what you have done.
I would love to see that last photo, of her beached. All the others have now come through fine.
rene460
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JFA_67
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 30i
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Post by JFA_67 on Jun 24, 2019 10:08:26 GMT
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Post by rene460 on Jun 24, 2019 11:52:15 GMT
Hi Jorge,
Something is is very strange. Once again, the same thing. I saw the photos, well four or five anyway, the first time I saw your reply. Then I went away due to another distraction. When I returned to your reply again, no pictures. I wonder is there is something about the sharing settings on your photo host service. It is beyond me I am afraid. But I did see the pictures thank you. Must have been an anxious moment as she settled on a bit of an angle like that. But it obviously turned out ok.
I hope someone else will come in and tell us if they are seeing the photos.
rene460
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Post by Don Reaves on Jun 24, 2019 17:44:39 GMT
I do see all the photos. My problem is that with a low-quality Wi-Fi connection like I usually get in my marina, a thread like this with so many photos doesn’t load well. It either takes a long time or gives up.
Don
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Post by MalcolmP on Jun 24, 2019 19:17:48 GMT
Great photos, all visible fine, many thanks for sharing. Poor WiFi is probably why they may be slow to load
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Post by rene460 on Jun 24, 2019 21:20:30 GMT
Hi Jorge,
You must have fixed it, they are all there now thank you. I was also having trouble with slow internet last night, so it was an extra bonus when they even loaded quickly this morning. (It is 7:20 Tuesday here now). Obviously everyone else has gone to work this morning, so the facility can cope.
rene460
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