43DS Aft Cabin Dividers

[alenka]

Dividing the large aft cabin into two separates using the optional panels has been raised on this forum before but has never really been resolved.  I am contemplating making soft board partitions for those very rare occasions I want to have two cabins aft.

Is there any forum members out there that have a set of the optional panels (once) supplied by Jeanneau that would be willing to make up sketches, with sizes, that can be used as a starting point??

Thanks in advance

[freeflow]

good Idea, I too have been considering this.  Over the winter I will build a pattern and make some dividers out of canvas /fabric to install when I want to split the aft cabin berth.

[alenka]

As I mentioned previously others have raised this on several occasions but so far it seems there is a reluctance for anyone to share the pattern design.

I understand the dividers originally supplied by Jeanneau fit neatly under the aft berth when not in use. I am sure with a bit of experimentation and time an alternative design can be found, but it would be so much easier if we knew how Jeanneau makes it work.

Any offers???

[windspeak]

Nov 12, 2018 15:04:53 GMT freeflow said:

good Idea, I too have been considering this.  Over the winter I will build a pattern and make some dividers out of canvas /fabric to install when I want to split the aft cabin berth.

Hi what you can do is make a former to creat a patern which you can then devide to make sections to Stowe I made a Perminant divider in two pieces from a one inch faced board ( light oak) with teak locking batons , the former is the secret to creating the devide it is very simple to make . Take a sheet of 4mm ply and cut into 100mm strips starting with the grove on the bed of the berth lay a strip of the 4mm Ply in it to the Center of the grove cut to size , cut your next piece 4 mm for the vertical to the underside of the deck grove and overlap the joint carefully align the vertical and the horizontal you can start from either end , Now connect these two overlapping part with a triangular patern of small screws or nuts and bolts offer into the void for fit if good proceed to the next piece and work your way around the void keeping to the Center of the groves of the divider area I found a Center baton added good regidety to the template I made my template to the end of berth cushions as this came out of the companionway if you want to make a full devide to the back of thee engine compartment make another former the same way it took me an afternoon to make the patern . Work to the Center of the groves as they are curved you will need to shape 25 mm board edge for a good fit of the final partition SO DS 43 Jollybob Grenada W.I.

[colinnz]

We have the panels. Happy to take photos and measure if still needed? Can try and do it tomorrow. Let me know

[mikebnz]

Ditto, we move house this week but once that’s done I’m going to take as much stuff off the boat for winter as possible. So I’ll have the boards at home to measure and photograph if Colin doesn’t beat me to it.

Having the dividers in place is very useful even if you aren’t sharing the cabin. We use half for luggage and half to sleep in. Great on passage to have the central wall to roll against. We’ve removed the final two fwd panels so we can walk between the two sides of the cabin but still have the wall between the beds. Kind of makes a bedroom and a dressing room.

[tsenator]

May 25, 2019 9:27:17 GMT mikebnz said:

Ditto, we move house this week but once that’s done I’m going to take as much stuff off the boat for winter as possible. So I’ll have the boards at home to measure and photograph if Colin doesn’t beat me to it.

Having the dividers in place is very useful even if you aren’t sharing the cabin. We use half for luggage and half to sleep in. Great on passage to have the central wall to roll against. We’ve removed the final two fwd panels so we can walk between the two sides of the cabin but still have the wall between the beds. Kind of makes a bedroom and a dressing room.

Would love details and if someone traced the dimensions etc that would be ~Awesome ~

Better yet if someone has some they want to sell to me I would be more than happy to buy from them !

[georgina]

Did anyone have the pattern for these dividers? I’d be very keen to get a copy of the drawings if possible.

[wheelsucker]

Aug 9, 2020 10:05:21 GMT georgina said:

Did anyone have the pattern for these dividers? I’d be very keen to get a copy of the drawings if possible.

Add us to the list of people who would appreciate drawings if someone has them.

[saltymetals]

Alenka,
did you resolve the matter of the cabin aft cabin dividers?. Myboar has original divide and when not in use there is a special large area u do the berth so all the panels are neatly cut to fit in this space. Udyr boat did not hv the original dividers make sure this space exists on yr boat. I do not know if the fixed 2 cabin version of the 43dshas this space or not.

it is all carefully designed and worked out by Jeanneau so my first try would be to see if you can order them from Jeanneau. They have the patterns and all the wood-working facilities. Trick is the
large locking panel at the forward end using hidden velcro where there is a flush overlap with the next panel. I suppose you could make up yr own panels but it would be a challenge to do it as well as the orignal Jeanneau panels.

Let me know if you resolved this,
Andrew
"Genial Bee"

[alenka]

No - Still don't have information to make the dividing panels.

And yes - We have the space under the aft berths to store them.

Asked the Jeanneau agent and was told they can no longer get them from Jeanneau. If someone knows different please tell.

[saltymetals]

Alenka, I am not quite sure how to go about this and make patterns for you. There is a young Romanian couple of designers at anchor near me (Spinut/Split/Croatia) and I will ask their advice. They probably have some fancy programs on their computer for this sort of thing. Might ask for some sort of payment bec I guess they need the cash to renovate a 2002 boat they just bought.
Give me 2-3 days. Reverting.
Andrew
"Genial Bee"

[alenka]

I am happy with hand drawn on a piece of A4 with sizes along each edge.  A quick pic on a smart phone and posted on this thread will work fine.

Thanks

[saltymetals]

Alenka, and I believe numerous others, have been asking this question for at least a year. If you would like these panels to be anything close to the Jeanneau originals this is not something that can be done by hand. They need to be machine cut by a carpentry workshop.

I have the solution. A young engineering designer anchored near me has this evening measured all 4 of my panels and put all the details into a design program which a workshop could use. He and his charming wife are not asking for any money but they tell me they are setting up a go-fund-me website and would be really happy if any users of this info could make a contribution to help cover their costs of renovating a 2002 36ft sailing boat.
I rely on you guys to treat other sailors as we would wish to be treated ourselves so please do not take the info which will be coming as a freebee. They are youngsters (mid 20's , well qualified, just left uni , know all the latest computer design opportunities and I feel we should encourage them on their adventure to work from their boat)

So watch this space. Serious info to follow in 1-2 days.
Andrew
"Genial Bee"
43ds

[alenka]

Watching with interest.... But have to say the carpenters out here in Greece probably don't even have a computer and will have to work from old fashioned paper sketches.

[tsenator]

Put my name down for very interested too.  Would love to get a set of these dividers made the way Jeanneau Originally designed.  

If someone creates very detailed & exact design document with all the dimension, pics & and hardware detail I would be willing to pay something to their "Cruising Fund"

2003 Jeanneau 43DS "Otra Dama"

[saltymetals]

ok, we have v accurately measured the 5 panels I hv on my 2004 43ds. Assuming that all our 43ds models have exactly the same dimensions and that you guys will hv had the same "settlement" of the cockpit floor by a few mm the drawings we hv put together will fit yr boat bec they are based on my panels which fit my boat perfectly.

Now there are two choices
1) you take the drawings and get someone to make up the panels. I have a brief intro that I can send you if you send me a PM w yr email addr
2) the designer tells me thinks he can get a carpentry machine shop that he knows and has worked with in Moldavia to make up veneered and varnished panels according to his drawings ( I guess they use the same software) and then ship them to you. I hv asked him for a price guide which I shld hv in 2-3days.

Then you can make yr choice but I must emphasize that the original panels that I hv must hv been machineed to a +/-1 mm tolerance. This means it is not poss manually and must be machine-cut.

[MalcolmP]

Well done Saltymetals, sure this will be appreciated by many 43DS owners

[wheelsucker]

Our thanks as well for being willing to help out your fellow 43DS owners!  PM sent.

[alenka]

Andrew,

Fine tuning to within a few mms is a bit of a concern because it is likely that each boat is slightly different.

Also....  There are the models which were always intended to have dividers, ie., two doubles and no side bins and those intended as one large aft cabin with a queen size bed and side bins. Whilst the groves in the ceiling remain the same what are the differences around the engine access area - is this the same layout for both designs??

Any chance you could post a picture of your set up?

Thanks

[colinnz]

Hi all, feeling bad I never got mine out to measure - sorry about that BUT knowing they are all different and difficult to get right is understandable I guess. Mine is missing the front divider setup (it is the 2 forward bunk setup but they are just used for storage now).

Soo much still to work on inside the boat. Just had bimini changed and job list is becoming more cosmetic and maintenance than 'fixing stuff'.

[saltymetals]

OK, guys, I have a WORD file for you to explain how it all goes together and will try and attach the file to this message since it is a fraction under the 1 MB limit .  

The detailed drawings are about to follow, just doing a bit of fine tuning. But I am sure to need individual email addresses for that (tks Brian/"Wheelsucker" for yrs) and you can send these to me by PM. 

Andrew
"Genial Bee"

Attachments:

Jeanneau 43ds Aft Cabin dividing Panels.docx (965.21 KB)

[saltymetals]

By the way, we investigated the possibility of having the panels made but concluded that delivery costs would be far too high so we have dropped that idea. 

I counted 6 so far who are interested, Alenka (Ionian), Freeflow (Manitowoc, USA), Mike bnz (Wellington, NZ), Tsenator (Stamford CT) and not sure where the other two are (Georgina & Wheelsucker). So we are spread out all over the place. Best to work from the drawings and have the panels made locally.

Andrew
 

[saltymetals]

Sorry guys. Bin my previous attachment. It was incomplete. I now attach my completed comments on how the wall of panels fits together. i have numerous details from Vlad but they are all as emails so PM me w yr email address and i can send you the rest.
The doc was more than the limit of 1 MB so i have split it into a PART ONE and PART TWO. The second part follows in another post on this thread. Part One- Jeanneau 43ds Aft Cabin dividing....docx (848.72 KB)
Andrew

"Genial Bee"

[saltymetals]

Here is the second part of my explanatory doc.
AndrewPart Two- Jeanneau 43ds Aft Cabin dividing....docx (464.67 KB)