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Post by zaphod on Sept 15, 2018 17:14:48 GMT
Our first big upgrade on our new 39i is going to be a Selden sprit and asymetric spinnaker. We are also considering a furling system for the sail. I am curious what brands others are using, and what experiences and insights you have to share.
Harken Reflex and Selden are on my short list so far, but I will certainly consider others.
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Post by hoppy on Sept 15, 2018 22:12:56 GMT
I bought a Selden CX25 for a code 0 and later when I bought a sail needing a top down furler, I then got the top down furler adapter rather than buying a new furler.
The CX25 would stay permamently mounted to the bowsprit and the furling line back to the cockpit. Then I would mount whichever sail to it. Very easy.
If there is even the remotest possibility that you may one day add a Code zero to your wardrobe, then I HIGHLY recommend that you get the CX25 & adapter rather than getting a GX25.
I was so happy with that system, that I kept the CX25 and the rest of the gear for both Assy's when I sold my boat and added a sock to assy that stayed with the boat.
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Post by hoppy on Sept 15, 2018 22:27:38 GMT
A CX with a top down adaptor  The double fairlead and tandem block are great for organising the continuious line   |
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Post by jdl01 on Sept 16, 2018 16:54:44 GMT
I agree with Hoppy that a dual use - with adapters - furler that will take both code 0's and assymetrics is the best use of your funds as it gives you future low cost options - as well as less set up hassles of two separate systems
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Post by pagoda54 on Sept 16, 2018 21:25:12 GMT
Our first big upgrade on our new 39i is going to be a Selden sprit and asymetric spinnaker. We are also considering a furling system for the sail. I am curious what brands others are using, and what experiences and insights you have to share. Harken Reflex and Selden are on my short list so far, but I will certainly consider others. We have the Selden sprit on our 42iP, it was fitted from new. It sits far enough forward to avoid fouling the forestay or nav lights and works well. We went for the Facnor FX4500 furler with our code0 -with the removable twin stanchion blocks etc. There are many ways of combining kit, but truly accurate measurement of the rig is essential for enough furler tension. It needs to be pretty tight to furl correctly, so you need the sprit in its correct position before getting sail related things measured. You also need to consider means of cleating off the continuous furling line - depending on whether there is a ratchet mechanism in the furler. Also, bear in mind that the sprit may foul any anchor on the nearby roller. You also need to remember to dismount the sprit prior to anchoring as it sits over the anchor locker. A useful upgrade nevertheless. |
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Post by zaphod on Sept 16, 2018 23:24:06 GMT
Our first big upgrade on our new 39i is going to be a Selden sprit and asymetric spinnaker. We are also considering a furling system for the sail. I am curious what brands others are using, and what experiences and insights you have to share. Harken Reflex and Selden are on my short list so far, but I will certainly consider others. We have the Selden sprit on our 42iP, it was fitted from new. It sits far enough forward to avoid fouling the forestay or nav lights and works well. We went for the Facnor FX4500 furler with our code0 -with the removable twin stanchion blocks etc. There are many ways of combining kit, but truly accurate measurement of the rig is essential for enough furler tension. It needs to be pretty tight to furl correctly, so you need the sprit in its correct position before getting sail related things measured. You also need to consider means of cleating off the continuous furling line - depending on whether there is a ratchet mechanism in the furler. Also, bear in mind that the sprit may foul any anchor on the nearby roller. You also need to remember to dismount the sprit prior to anchoring as it sits over the anchor locker. A useful upgrade nevertheless. Do you have any back wrapping and jamming issues? I have heard some makes are better than others for this problem. |
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Post by moonshadow on Sept 17, 2018 12:54:13 GMT
I have a code zero and selden CX25 system on a SO469. The only problem is when the wind picks up and singlehanded trying to furl the sail. When it is windy it can require tension on both sides of the continuous line to keep it from paying out and unrolling when partway done furling. Then, the lazy sheet can foul the roller if it is not taken up as the clew approaches the head stay. I am considering adding cam cleats to my boat just to control the sheets while furling the zero. Practice definitely helps but this is not as easy as a single line roller where you can stop partway to clear the sheets with a single cleat. I have to lock off both sides of the furler line, collect and clear the jam, secure the loose sheet so it doesn’t foul again, then unclear and continue to roll the zero. I suspect some bowsprit are better at avoiding this foul the roller problem but with the size of the sail if the lazy sheet is ignored it might end up under the bow.
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Post by Caxton on Sept 17, 2018 18:41:50 GMT
Moonshadow, that is a very informative post. Thanks.
Caxton
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Post by pagoda54 on Sept 18, 2018 16:29:50 GMT
We have the Selden sprit on our 42iP, it was fitted from new. It sits far enough forward to avoid fouling the forestay or nav lights and works well. We went for the Facnor FX4500 furler with our code0 -with the removable twin stanchion blocks etc. There are many ways of combining kit, but truly accurate measurement of the rig is essential for enough furler tension. It needs to be pretty tight to furl correctly, so you need the sprit in its correct position before getting sail related things measured. You also need to consider means of cleating off the continuous furling line - depending on whether there is a ratchet mechanism in the furler. Also, bear in mind that the sprit may foul any anchor on the nearby roller. You also need to remember to dismount the sprit prior to anchoring as it sits over the anchor locker. A useful upgrade nevertheless. Do you have any back wrapping and jamming issues? I have heard some makes are better than others for this problem. No specific jamming problems. The inner "stay/cable " around which the sail furls has to be pretty tight for everything to work properly= real halyard tension. Unlike much genoa furling it's generally a good thing to furl with some load in the code0 as it furls better and ends up much less bulky. We have had some problems with slippage and part unfurling - but careful routing of the continuous line near the furling unit helps prevent that. It is easier to put a big snake back into the sail bag than a fluffy and fairly bulky snuffer and sail. Much less windage once furled than a snuffed asymmetric. |
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Post by hoppy on Sept 19, 2018 3:26:36 GMT
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Post by moonshadow on Sept 22, 2019 11:25:45 GMT
I have found that when sailing singlehanded with the code zero on selden CX25 that if I lead the sheets between the zero and my jib I have fewer problems when I fuel the zero. The sheet seems to stay higher on not foul the furler. This also means that I can’t jibe the zero outside, instead it means rolling and unrolling on the new side. With two or more aboard to help manage sheets I rig it outside and jibe like an assymetrical. But solo it is a lot easier to roll when the sheets are between the two rigged roller sails.
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