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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 14, 2018 23:26:27 GMT
Close up look at the Sun Odyssey 410
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Post by nyodyssey410 on Nov 17, 2018 13:29:30 GMT
Our boat is being produced in Marion. It’s a long painful wait to delivery so we doing little things to pass the time. We will get to see the boat again in Miami at the February boat show.
i think we are going to the factory twice if they let us. Once in April and hopefully sometime when we are in production
in March we are sailing with john kretschmer for 10 days to add to our sailing skills
We also been using the time to add stuff. We added the code zero recently
We did not find the cockpit lockers any smaller than the 419
the only left to upgrade is the electric winches
we are super stoked!
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Post by rc sail on Nov 17, 2018 17:15:56 GMT
Well know the pain of the long winter wait as I closed the purchase on my 44 in November. I agreed the dealer could use
the boat over the winter months as a display model and in turn the dealer kept the boat in their indoor heated showroom. I was also able to visit and "pet" the new boat a couple times a month until the spring launch. Also worked well for the boat
tailors as they had a nice heated work area to construct the dodger and bimini also during this time.
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Post by nyodyssey410 on Nov 18, 2018 14:18:13 GMT
That was a good idea.
i think we are not getting our boat till late in the summer almost fall since it is a new model.
we remain optimistic though and hope it turns out quicker for us
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Post by rc sail on Nov 18, 2018 17:28:25 GMT
end of summer for delivery is even more pain. If my situation I would be sending Jeanneau America staff bottles of wine,
chocolates, fruitcakes, and whatever else for the Holidays along with a request to move up in the production schedule. LoL.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 22, 2019 11:46:49 GMT
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Post by moonshadow on Jan 22, 2019 15:51:42 GMT
My prop wash comment relates to the effect on my rudder when Motoring. If I let go of the wheel the rudder gets progressively pushed to starboard. This is an effect on the rudder, not the boat initially. Locking the wheel negates the effect. But when unlocked and motoring tealeasing the wheel will soon have the wheel and rudder over hard to starboard taking the boat with it.
Single rudder with saildrive.
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Post by nyodyssey410 on Jan 22, 2019 17:10:53 GMT
Thanks for sharing this new video.
We are spending this winter trying to get anything we could find on the boat.
Do you know when the owners manuals get produced?
Thanks
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 22, 2019 17:34:13 GMT
Do you know when the owners manuals get produced? Sorry, I don't know. I would ask your dealer first, or if you have been given your Hull ID HIN number you could ask the factory by sending an email to service.client@jeanneau.fr |
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Post by nyodyssey410 on Jan 30, 2019 19:24:15 GMT
When do they start building this model in Marion? Are all the examples out there doing the show circuit from France?
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Post by MalcolmP on Mar 1, 2019 8:36:53 GMT
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StillREEL
Junior Member
Posts: 14 
Jeanneau Model: 379
Yacht Name: Miah
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Post by StillREEL on Mar 13, 2019 13:36:52 GMT
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johannes
Full Member
Posts: 40
Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 37
Yacht Name: Pleione
Country: Sweden
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Post by johannes on Mar 13, 2019 16:56:02 GMT
The boat in Spain is a one year old SO 440, not a 410.
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StillREEL
Junior Member
Posts: 14
Jeanneau Model: 379
Yacht Name: Miah
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Post by StillREEL on Mar 13, 2019 17:23:16 GMT
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Post by jcnyb on Mar 13, 2019 17:31:02 GMT
The one you’ve copied this time is a SO419, not a SO410 - they are both two different models...one model is about 6 years old as a design and the 410 is a brand new model just this year. The 410 offers a lot of new ideas and tech the 419 doesn’t, despite still being a really quality boat. |
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StillREEL
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Jeanneau Model: 379
Yacht Name: Miah
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Post by StillREEL on Mar 13, 2019 17:34:35 GMT
Yes again. I'm liking the 419 at the listed price, per option. It seems that the boats for sale in Spain are generally cost a lot less. My concern is dubious sales practice.
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Mar 13, 2019 17:55:06 GMT
My prop wash comment relates to the effect on my rudder when Motoring. If I let go of the wheel the rudder gets progressively pushed to starboard. This is an effect on the rudder, not the boat initially. Locking the wheel negates the effect. But when unlocked and motoring tealeasing the wheel will soon have the wheel and rudder over hard to starboard taking the boat with it. Single rudder with saildrive. The asymmetric blade effect having to do with the thrust impacting one side of the rudder more than the other. The more power, the worse it will be. |
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Post by MartyB on Mar 14, 2019 3:27:56 GMT
As far as pricing goes......... ARE the Spain dealers using the "BASE" price, vs other dealers using the "PRICE" of the boat they have ordered, ready to go? in stock etc......
Local dealer has a 349 for $180K USD. Their are a few dealers in US listing them at $130K or there about! Read the fine print and you realize this is base price, does not include options I may want, bottom paint and prep.....Next thing you know, your Spain dealers price is $100K higher, and on par with other dealers prices.
My .02 and thought on the subject!
marty
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johannes
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Posts: 40
Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 37
Yacht Name: Pleione
Country: Sweden
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Post by johannes on Mar 14, 2019 11:10:09 GMT
The US boat is pretty high spec with Li-batteries, generator, A/C, electric winches etc.
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Post by MartyB on Mar 15, 2019 3:18:38 GMT
johannes,
Go to page 2 of the Spain dealers page, this shows and says that their price is a BASE price, excluding extras etc. Kind of how I thought it might be. Have not looked at higher priced add. Really see no need to based on what I just read.
marty
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johannes
Full Member
Posts: 40
Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 37
Yacht Name: Pleione
Country: Sweden
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Post by johannes on Mar 15, 2019 8:07:21 GMT
Yes, that was my point.
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Post by jcnyb on Mar 15, 2019 8:38:02 GMT
This seems to be suffering from thread drift at this point but I agree with Marty.
The Spanish dealer has advertised the basic boat, ex tax. Nothing to stop anyone going and buying exactly what he’s advertising from him, you can add your spec options to suit but the price will go up, he’s upfront about what’s included or not and I don’t see anything dubious or shady in those actions.
The American dealer is advertising his boat inclusive of the selected options he has either ordered or thinks his clients will want, also nothing wrong with doing that. He’s hoping that by being upfront with a more full spec price that clients who do come to him will have a more realistic understanding of the final cost, albeit he’s second guessing their desired options so the tactic might put some off by overpricing the boat with options like Air conditioning that a client in, say, Alaska, might not want to pay for.
Ultimately it’s a big investment and the relationship last longer than just the point of purchase, it needs to last a few years minimum, so the best advice is to buy the boat from a dealer you like and trust, they all have access to the same pricing so if one is willing to do a sharper deal and you like them then go with it.
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StillREEL
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Jeanneau Model: 379
Yacht Name: Miah
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Post by StillREEL on Mar 15, 2019 18:51:01 GMT
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Post by nyodyssey410 on Mar 21, 2019 16:57:47 GMT
We Just made our last change. Switched to Grey Cedar.
Our boat has the following:
45 HP Yanmar
Generator
AC
Code Zero
Self tacking Jib
3 Electric Winches
2 Cabin 2 Head Layout
Dark Floor
Extra Freezer
Teak Cockpit Area
Ocean Pack Electronics
Furling main
Shoal Draft
Electric Heads
Super excited and ready to go!!!
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Post by jcnyb on Mar 21, 2019 17:13:12 GMT
We Just made our last change. Switched to Grey Cedar. Our boat has the following: 45 HP Yanmar Generator AC Code Zero Self tacking Jib 3 Electric Winches 2 Cabin 2 Head Layout Dark Floor Extra Freezer Teak Cockpit Area Ocean Pack Electronics Furling main Shoal Draft Electric Heads Super excited and ready to go!!! Big Fan of that spec, looks superb  It always surprises me how many people deride electric winches on boats, okay stuff can go wrong but there's manual redundancy anyway.....I view it like cruise control on a car, sure its not strictly necessary but its nice to have and just cause they're there your not obliged to use them. Sail spec is absolutely bang on what I'd choose also, self tacker for upwind and tight channels, furling main for ease of use and code zero for longer downwind runs. Spot on, great spec, I'm sure you'll enjoy it thoroughly. Do keep the forum updated as to your various adventures in her. |
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It always surprises me how many people deride electric winches on boats, okay stuff can go wrong but there's manual redundancy anyway.....I view it like cruise control on a car, sure its not strictly necessary but its nice to have and just cause they're there your not obliged to use them. Sail spec is absolutely bang on what I'd choose also, self tacker for upwind and tight channels, furling main for ease of use and code zero for longer downwind runs.