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Post by cayoloco on Apr 24, 2018 20:28:58 GMT
I have a 2005 43DS and want to upgrade the refrigerator lid keep. Here's what happened. My wife is a small woman. When she would clean out the refrigerator she has to lean way in and sometimes lays on the counters to get her arm in deep enough to get at the bottom. Now the lid is held in it's up position by a long spring. Anyway, while she is in these positions invariably she would hit the spring that holds up the lid with her arm, causing the 10+ lbs lid to come crashing down on her head. The first time it was funny. The second time she was pissed. The third time it knocked her out.
So with that said, I bought a gas assist strut that would hold the lid secure for a newer versions of a 45DS off the Jeanneau parts website. Now I am planning to mount it and remove that god awful spring, saving my wife from further head injury. Does anyone have a 45DS that they can share the mounting dimensions for the the gas assist strut bracket on where to mount the bracket to the lid and where to mount it the other bracket to the side of the refrigerator?
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Post by MickeyB on Apr 25, 2018 6:02:57 GMT
Just a small side point - we suffered the same situation with my wife and the 'spring'. In thinking on how to solve it, we came up with such a simple idea that I thought I would share it.
We put an eye on the fridge itself, and a hook on the panel behind the fridge (mounted very near to a hinge for the doors - we have a SO 34.2 so it is slightly different design).
Benefits, you can crawl totally around the edge of the lid as there is nothing there to snag on at all. It is simple to install, with practically no moving parts it isn't going to fail.
Just thought I would mention it as an alternative.
Mike
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Post by alenka on Apr 25, 2018 7:30:45 GMT
Also the same problem with the small cool box/store to the left of the fridge. (we keep pots & pans in it). My wife has trapped her arm at the wrist several times. It would be quite easy to get a nasty break if you were unlucky.
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Post by ianqv on Apr 25, 2018 11:35:22 GMT
Hi
PLEASE can you take some pics of your mod and post up once you have finished. My other half also complains of this..... I will sooooooooooo be in her good books if I can also do this on my S/O 37.
Many thanks
Ian
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Post by cayoloco on Apr 25, 2018 14:45:20 GMT
I will definitely post the installation when I'm completed. I like the simple solution, but I do things the hard way some times. LOL
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Post by Don Reaves on Apr 25, 2018 19:46:11 GMT
My solution is even simpler. I'm the one to clean the refrigerator on my SO35. Don
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Post by andreshs1 on Apr 29, 2018 12:22:04 GMT
I will never learn how to post photos or videos here..... I had the same issue and with the kids in the boat I went for safety and yesterday I fitted this: DerBlue 4 Pcs 100N/22.5lb Gas Strut Lift Support Cabinet Door Lift Pneumatic Support(black) www.amazon.com/dp/B01N57HAFT/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_api_i_KHB5Ab8QD7QSXOn the small fridge on the left and 2 on the one with the cooling plate Works perfectly!! Cheers
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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 29, 2018 15:04:38 GMT
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Post by andreshs1 on Apr 30, 2018 0:38:47 GMT
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Post by rene460 on Apr 30, 2018 11:56:36 GMT
No need to change a successful installation, but as shown, the strut appears to hold the lid up, but is probably nearly neutral rather than applying some pressure to hold the lid closed when down, even to requiring a catch. Perhaps it is parallax. At least, the weight of the lid has maximum leverage to shorten the strut when it is nearly down.
The usual recomendation for installation of these struts is that the position of the two ends of the strut relative to the hinge pin should be so that the strut holds the hatch open, then becomes shorter to a minimum length with the fixing point on the lid, the fixed point on the base and the lid hinge pin in line a little before the lid is fully down, then extends slightly as the lid continues to the fully closed position to hold it closed.
Gas strut manufacturers websites usually have installation instructions, I thought I had a pamphlet I picked up recently but can't locate it. But the principal is always the same, the pin attachment to the lid must cross the line between the fixed point in the cabinet and the lid hinge pin somewhere between the lid open and lid closed positions in order to hold the lid both open and closed. It often requires a bracket on the lid to place the attachment point below the line. It can work with a vertical installation or horizontal, the lid pin just has to cross the line between the other two points.
Send me a pm with an email if you need me to send you a sketch to clarify.
rene460
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Post by andreshs1 on Apr 30, 2018 13:52:05 GMT
Hi there
Not sure, the instructions in these didn't really say much But it does hold the doors locked and I need to pull up about 3 inches before the strut continues by itself, otherwise it will tend to close them again
Cheers Andres
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Post by cayoloco on May 2, 2018 12:22:32 GMT
Good stuff. You used just an off the shelf strut with a 10Kg lifting effort. I was thinking about the same kind of strut but with a longer stroke and just one on the main lid. I was thinking about mounting it a little different too. But your concept look and works perfect. I should rethink my strategy.
Can someone post a picture of the installation of the strut on a 45DS? I think they come standard with the gas struts.
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Post by rene460 on May 2, 2018 12:37:56 GMT
Hi Andres,
Looks like you got it right, that is how they are supposed to work.
rene460
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Post by boltnbrew on Jul 6, 2018 0:12:37 GMT
I purchase a set of struts from DerBlue for our 43DS, but need the dimensions for the attachment of the lower mounting ball. I assume you used the existing holes for the lid attachment point. I did not want to start putting holes everywhere in attempting the lower attachment point. Thank you in advance!
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Post by andreshs1 on Jul 6, 2018 0:33:26 GMT
Hi
I did not use any of the existing holes as when we tried reusing the lid ones the opening of the lid was not wide enough
I'll take the measurements tomorrow and post it
Cheers
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Post by boltnbrew on Jul 6, 2018 3:38:15 GMT
That would be great. Thank you!
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Post by ianpowolny on Jul 6, 2018 11:09:25 GMT
Malcom, I'm trying to add this photo from imgur but can’t get a forum link from my iPad. Not sure what to do next. If I tap the link it takes you to the photo. imgur.com/a/7fFs8gH From our 45D
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Post by 3buoys on Jul 6, 2018 18:04:44 GMT
I will never learn how to post photos or videos here..... I had the same issue and with the kids in the boat I went for safety and yesterday I fitted this: DerBlue 4 Pcs 100N/22.5lb Gas Strut Lift Support Cabinet Door Lift Pneumatic Support(black) www.amazon.com/dp/B01N57HAFT/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_api_i_KHB5Ab8QD7QSXOn the small fridge on the left and 2 on the one with the cooling plate Works perfectly!! Cheers I’ve used these on my 45DS FROM Amazon 100Newtons work perfectly got some real power behind them and you can fit one each side to give you double power lift.
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Post by andreshs1 on Jul 7, 2018 14:06:04 GMT
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Post by boltnbrew on Jul 7, 2018 17:56:49 GMT
Many thanks!
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Post by cayoloco on Aug 13, 2018 19:18:31 GMT
I told you all I would give you an update on this project when it's done. Well, it's done and in use for the last couple of months. I added the gas strut to the refrigerator lid with great success. The strut I used was a Stabilus Liftomat 084506 0100N 193/17 AG 14. This is the standard lift strut for the Jeanneau 44DS refrigerator lid. You can buy this strut and the SS brackets straight from Jeanneau. But the strut is WAY over priced. You should just buy that over the internet and save yourself the money. The custom SS brackets were useful and not that pricey. One thing I did learn is that the upper and lower cabinets in the galley are not physically attached to each other. When the gas strut is applying the 100N of pressure in the closed position to the hinges attached to the upper cabinet, force on the lid will twist and jam in the refrigerator opening. I had to screw the upper cabinet to the lower cabinet through the inside of the upper cabinet to fix the two cabinet together so when the pressure of the gas strut was pushing on the lid, attached to the hinges on the upper cabinet that the two did not move in relationship to each other. I also added starboard to spread out the loads on the mounting plates from the strut. Here are a few links to the photos of it's installation. drive.google.com/file/d/1Nzwg1w9Xu4fItORJB4kZ2lBZZELE3N9r/view?usp=sharingdrive.google.com/open?id=15ZQmB3arzrpOVRUUNxekPk1kB13Fy5U2drive.google.com/open?id=1VfM6M5V_wkxsvaMri7w2OWshtusVAXPldrive.google.com/open?id=1eis7hLPs-6HjbRc1fyeZ49erCugrAf38When it was all done, the lid action was smooth and professional. . . . and my wife doesn't have to worry about getting concussed!
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Post by Trevor on Aug 14, 2018 3:36:37 GMT
Nice job and thanks for posting how it turned out. That is very helpful.
Regards,
Trevor
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Post by Stella Maris on Jul 22, 2019 13:14:30 GMT
Hi Cayoloco, thanks for the great pictures. I'm looking at doing something identical on my very similar freezer on my Sun Odyssey 52.2. My problem is I want the ram to be able to apply a downward force that will help to more effectively seal my freezer lid. Right now with "the spring" just the weight of the lid is not enough to make a good seal and I'm getting a lot of outside air entering and frosting up the plate. Does you install pull down and help the seal. Also the model number you gave doesn't have a length so I was wondering if you could say how long it is. I like how you used the starboard to spread the load and I'll probably do that too as well. Since you have in in for a while do you see the need for 2 rams or is just the one working out good.
Thanks for the great post, it's exactly the info that I need.
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Post by NZL50505 on Dec 31, 2023 0:58:33 GMT
I simply want to replace the gas strut on my 50DS main fridge (as pictured).
My question is whether anyone knows what ‘power’ strut I need eg 100N / 150N / 250N / 500n etc?
Yes I could order via my dealer but it would probably be more expensive and definitely take longer to arrive (in NZ).
Whereas I can go to the local DIY store and pick up any number of options - if I have an idea of support weight!
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Post by NZL50505 on Dec 31, 2023 1:00:03 GMT
Strut I want to replace (it’s squeaking terribly and I suspect the seal is going as I can’t quieten it with usual remedy of drop of lube / olive oil on the exposed shaft):
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