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Post by ania on Mar 22, 2019 19:48:41 GMT
Hi All, By way of sharing our various solutions, below is a depiction of our solar setup. Not as neat or the capacity as Latitude 25's flexible setup Ania put together but we have an Australian built bimini which is full width but much shorter than the factory option with a larger infill. As a result the available length and curvature of the bimini led us to opt for a single high capacity solid panel fitting between the backstays. On a sunny day with reasonable elevation (say between 10am and 2pm) we see around 8amps into the house batteries. The system has a Victron MPPT 100/50. Because we also have a Victron Multiplus (3000va inverter and 120 amp charger) for the house system and a Victron BMV 712 battery controller, we display all the system status on a Victron GX display. www.23hq.com/MarkClement/photo/52842295/originalwww.23hq.com/MarkClement/photo/52842322/originalwww.23hq.com/MarkClement/photo/52842353/originalLooks good Mark, only pictures came up upside-down ;-) Looks like you have more space there for another panel, but you can only install one more since you will exceed MPPT rated voltage, looks like you panel max Voltage is 52V. And they recommended at Victron series setup. I had to watch some youtube videos before I drilled that hull, pretty nerve recking job. The whole project took me two month because of all the phone calls I had to make and research on line. I am sure professional could have done it in 15 min. Running cable to the port berth from the back was pain since there was no trace wire inside of the tube ;-) Other than that I am glad I did it since I have no engineering background whatsoever, got to know the boat much better.
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Post by markclement on Mar 22, 2019 20:44:23 GMT
"Looks good Mark, only pictures came up upside-down ;-) Looks like you have more space there for another panel, but you can only install one more since you will exceed MPPT rated voltage, looks like you panel max Voltage is 52V. And they recommended at Victron series setup. I had to watch some youtube videos before I drilled that hull, pretty nerve recking job. The whole project took me two month because of all the phone calls I had to make and research on line. I am sure professional could have done it in 15 min. Running cable to the port berth from the back was pain since there was no trace wire inside of the tube ;-) Other than that I am glad I did it since I have no engineering background whatsoever, got to know the boat much better."
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Crikey !!!! If the panels are upside down that's not going to be very efficient 😱😢 !!
Oh hang on ... all my devices show the pictures the right way up .. Phew .. Carolanne (the Admiral) has confirmed I did install the panels the right way up 🤗.. I thought it was worth a check as she often claims I'm going senile.
Mmm. ... Maybe it's because we are Downunder ?? Like how our water vortex in a sink drains clockwise here ??
----------- Re your other comments - totally agree Ania and well done. It takes us all a lot longer than a professional but a great learning experience and you know what is what if something goes wrong. Also often a neater job because a pro just can't afford the time we put into it.
G'day from Downunder
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Post by miami on Mar 24, 2019 3:02:12 GMT
I've been following this thread and appreciate the many comments. We are taking delivery of our own JY51 next month (April 2019). We had a ton of problems with our last new boat (a 2012 Beneteau) which took us years to sort out. This is our 4th boat. This time around I am trying to be proactive with both the factory and dealer about the many issues raised and other potential problems. I've read about prop vibration, leaks etc. Is there anything else I should watch out for during the commissioning process that some of you may have experienced?
I ordered our boat with a standard rig, full size genoa, upgraded mylar sails, and adjustable back stay. Any other comments or suggestion on sail performance with this or advice that might help optimize performance?
One dumb question, what are other JY51 owners doing with the cockpit cushions? Are you leaving them out all the time or stowing when not is use and if so where?
Thanks!
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Post by markclement on Mar 24, 2019 3:38:06 GMT
I've been following this thread and appreciate the many comments. We are taking delivery of our own JY51 next month (April 2019). We had a ton of problems with our last new boat (a 2012 Beneteau) which took us years to sort out. This is our 4th boat. This time around I am trying to be proactive with both the factory and dealer about the many issues raised and other potential problems. I've read about prop vibration, leaks etc. Is there anything else I should watch out for during the commissioning process that some of you may have experienced?
I ordered our boat with a standard rig, full size genoa, upgraded mylar sails, and adjustable back stay. Any other comments or suggestion on sail performance with this or advice that might help optimize performance?
One dumb question, what are other JY51 owners doing with the cockpit cushions? Are you leaving them out all the time or stowing when not is use and if so where?
Thanks! Big welcome Miami, You are getting a great boat 😊👍 We were tossing up between the J51 and the Dufour 520. An acquaintance has since purchased the Dufour 520 which is a great boat but we absolutely feel we made the right choice for our needs. Our boat was hull No 11 so I hope most of the teething issues are fixed but if you have been through the whole thread with each of our contributions (issues plus our additions) you would have a pretty comprehensive list. Many of the issues have been common but not all - for eg I have the factory supplied flexifold folding prop and have not had any vibration issues (although I am adding a Bruntons Sigma drive next slip for other benefits). Re the rig / sail configuration - do you mean "standard rig" as in in-mast furling main which comes standard with the J51 with the 110% genoa? Or do you mean a classic main with lazy jacks which is the same as Beyond Cool ? If it is the latter I do have some advice re the rig. Regardless which rig, the Mylar Taffeta upgrade is a good choice. We remember so well the excitement of seeing our J51 for the first time 21 months ago - enjoy. Regards Mark & Carolanne Clement SV Beyond Cool
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Post by miami on Mar 24, 2019 5:12:20 GMT
It is the later. Classic rig.
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Post by miami on Mar 24, 2019 5:14:18 GMT
Separately, I really like the boom on your boat. I looked into it. It’s nearly impossible to get in North America.
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Post by jy51 on Mar 24, 2019 9:14:29 GMT
I've been following this thread and appreciate the many comments. We are taking delivery of our own JY51 next month (April 2019). We had a ton of problems with our last new boat (a 2012 Beneteau) which took us years to sort out. This is our 4th boat. This time around I am trying to be proactive with both the factory and dealer about the many issues raised and other potential problems. I've read about prop vibration, leaks etc. Is there anything else I should watch out for during the commissioning process that some of you may have experienced?
I ordered our boat with a standard rig, full size genoa, upgraded mylar sails, and adjustable back stay. Any other comments or suggestion on sail performance with this or advice that might help optimize performance?
One dumb question, what are other JY51 owners doing with the cockpit cushions? Are you leaving them out all the time or stowing when not is use and if so where?
Thanks! We took delivery of our 51 five weeks ago and so far are very happy with her, with the good points out weighing the bad. With the Jeanneau yachts range they are trying to carve out a market below the semi custom hand built boats like Swan, Oyster, Hallberg Rassy's (about a quarter of the price) yet of a higher quality than the average white boat. To a certain point I believe they have achieved this, however, we must not forget they are mass produced and it shows. We ordered the cockpit cushions, the terrace with cushions and the lounger for the front deck. They all arrived but it seems the guy who fits the deck attachments and the cushion back press studs was having a day off when our boat came along the line. His replacement obviously had no idea what to do and screwed press studs all over the gelcoat on the starboard side and by chance one lined up with its opposite number on the cushion back, to make matters worse he must have popped off to the loo and forgot to fit any deck attachments for the other cushions. This I assume was overlooked by any quality control. Silly things that can be put right but should never have happened. To be fair the after sales service seems very good and we are currently waiting for parts so the commissioning team can put things right. My only worry seems to be the electric bathing platform, which others on the post have mentioned. When operating its final dropped position arrives with quite a thud which seems to have caused crazing and a crack to the leading edge of the platform. We will get this repaired and gel coated and keep an eye on it!
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Post by markclement on Mar 24, 2019 9:52:18 GMT
Separately, I really like the boom on your boat. I looked into it. It’s nearly impossible to get in North America. Hi,
I had one shipped from France halfway around the world so I believe it can be done. However it did come with a following Jeanneau delivery from France. It should be much easier to get a delivery from France to the US East Coast but if it is to happen it will have to be via Z-Spar France or via a US based Z- Spar agent.
However it really depends how much energy and $ you are willing to invest in order to get a Z-Spar Canoe boom on your boat. For us it made sense when you look at the benefits that we could extract from the canoe boom that i detailed in a previous post.
As Jeanneau offered a very minor take-out for the Classic standard boom and vang we left them in the contract - so we have a spare standard classic boom and vang in stock in Sydney which will sell at some stage. I actually took the goosneck off the spare and keep it on board as a spare (saw on 'La Vagabond" Elayna crash gybed the Outremeyer and broke the exact same Z-Spar gooseneck).
So if you want to pursue the idea of having a Z-Spar canoe boom, email us on carolanne@clement.net and I will provide some more context of what is required and help where I can.
On the question of cockpit cushions, we never leave our cushions out. Despite best efforts and avoiding stepping on them after 21 months they were grubby along the edges with a few notable greasy marks. In the last week I have spent probably 8 hours washing all the covers as per Sunbrella website instructions and currently re applying the water/ dirt repellent (called 3M Scotchguard here). The good news is that they have returned to as new condition with not a mark on them.
We store the cushions in the starboard rear cabin on the bed and on the very rare occasions we have 3 couples staying we move them to the saloon seats at bedtime. The exception are the rear seat cushions that we find we hardly ever use - The Admiral made some bags and we keep these hanging in the sail locker.
Regards Mark & Carolanne
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Post by markclement on Mar 24, 2019 10:32:30 GMT
It is the later. Classic rig. OK - I do not have any great insights into optimizing performance. With that rig / increased sail area (same as us) you will have a easily controlled very stiff boat that is quite fast against similar concept yachts straight out of the box. For eg at our club we are 10 mintues faster than a Beneteau Oceanis 45 with in-mast furling main over a 2hr 50 min race and as yet have always beaten a Beneteau Oceanis 58 on elapsed and they have a big boom furling main. The boat really needs 12kt plus to shine as the 110% genoa results in being down on power below 12kts.
The only commissioning/ performance issues on this rig we had were: a) On both the genoa halyard and main halyard I could not fully hoist the sails at first. We found that the beautiful splice at the end of the halyard was like a steel bar for the last 150mm so no way could it go around the top sheave. So in both cases we just cut it off and tied the halyard off with a halyard knot. b) We could not get the outhaul out as far as I wanted to flatten the foot because we ran out of travel on the outhaul clew track. This might have been due to a slight error on the canoe boom track position. I just made up two s/s cheek plates that allowed the further 40mm I was looking for as well as lifting the foot off the boom. c) I have considered making up a Dynema strop for the mainsheet similar to what is now used on the Sunfast's in order to more centralise the boom in light weather but as yet have not bothered. d) For us the best VMG slot to windward is something like: - 5 to 10kt: 32 deg apparent. - 10 to 16kt: 29 to 31 deg app - 15 to 20kt: 28 to 29 deg app e) There is a usefully positioned Wichard fitting on the gunwale bulwark forward of the stays that we attach blocks and run a second set of genoa sheets on the outside of the lifelines and use this to sheet the genoa when 130 to 155 deg app. This avoids over twisting of the genoa off the wind at those angles and have us powered up nicely on the full luff length. We use the spinnaker pole to wing out the genoa at 155 to 170 deg. The fastest VMG direct downwind is 160 to 170 deg due to the swept back spreaders and wider boom.
Hope that helps at least a little.
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Post by miami on Mar 24, 2019 15:40:20 GMT
Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such an informative response. The polars on 51 really looks good on paper even in light wind. Have you found that not to be the case? We also opted for the factory reacher and I’m thinking of adding a gennaker both on a top down furler.
Any further are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Post by markclement on Mar 25, 2019 1:25:21 GMT
Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such an informative response. The polars on 51 really looks good on paper even in light wind. Have you found that not to be the case? We also opted for the factory reacher and I’m thinking of adding a gennaker both on a top down furler. Any further are greatly appreciated. Thanks Hi, I am not totally sure about the achievement of light wind polar speeds. When cruising we are usually destination bound so if SOG drops below 5 kts the engine probably will be used. In races here on East Coast AU in summer it is rare not to have a sea breeze after midday of 12/ 20 knots. My comment was more by way of describing relative performance rather than individual. Below 10 knots my competitors at our club will have their 130% or 140% genoas up but we still with 110% - in those situations it does impact on relative speeds and I would expect for eg a SO479 to be quicker on all points benefiting from their large overlapping genoa.
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Post by ania on Mar 25, 2019 16:46:56 GMT
Welcome to the club Miami.
Our hull is #45. Very happy with it, don't get me wrong, however, at the price one pays for such yacht, I would personally expect better quality or engineering on brand new vessel. This forum is big help and people are super knowledgeable. Our issues, and that is something for you to look at right away after you get the boat.
- flexofold prop vibrated at RPM more than 1500, dealer tried fixed prop which would not vibrate, we ended up replacing it with MAX Prop and very happy; - Exide batts house bank 720 amps was replace entirely with American Eldeco 1200 amps after 4 batts ended up cooking. - Both GPS chart plotters were replaced after touch screens stopped functioning properly. I think Mark had same issue and his were replaced with newer version free of charge; - port tank fuel cap would let water in, this one wasn't fixed yet on our boat, I believe Goody had that, not sure if they fixed it; - one of the winches buttons would need excessive push force to work, they replaced control unit; - big one is water going down the davits into the hull. There is no fix for that one yet, temporarily they are suggesting fabric boot around davits, but that's not a fix but a bandaid.
Other than that, just minor stuff, like falling overhead panels, doors and compartments not closing or not aligning, nav lights going bad, minor cracks here and there are all easy fixes.
Post your maintenance experience here, even little things help in situations when you stumble against a problem you think is major but in reality is an easy fix, like when we had water pouring into engine compartment, which ended up being plastic companionway sliding door stopper coming off and clogged drain, easy fix.
Ania
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Post by miami on Mar 26, 2019 2:23:28 GMT
Hi Ania:
Thank you very much for your comments. Yes, I read about all of the issues you mentioned and brought up several of them to our dealer and to Jeanneau directly for a response. Having previously owned 3 new Beneteau's my expectations are tempered. I've learned how critical it is to work with a dealer that you can rely on. We had a nightmare with our last new boat and I'm just doing all I can to minimize any potential issues.
Can you tell me about your experience with your boat's sailing performance? What kind of main rig do you have? Are you happy with how it sails? The polars on the JY51 in 8-10 knots of wind with classic main and deep keel seem really good on paper and it was a main reason we choose the Jeanneau over a comparable Hanse (among other reasons).
Thanks.
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Post by miami on Mar 26, 2019 2:31:50 GMT
PROP VIBRATION
We actually spoke to Jeanneau about this and they acknowledged the problem. Below was the response we received form our dealer:
"I just hung up with a tech director who is even more informed. Spoke to him about this vibration issue; and he feels the issue is sporadic and might relate to the Flexo Fold tolerances; some vibrate and some do not. He also said the factory is looking to make the Gori as an option and while more expensive the tolerances from one to the next is better. That sounded plausible to me since our 51 and 54 do not have this problem. "
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Post by jy51 on Mar 26, 2019 7:58:32 GMT
PROP VIBRATION We actually spoke to Jeanneau about this and they acknowledged the problem. Below was the response we received form our dealer: "I just hung up with a tech director who is even more informed. Spoke to him about this vibration issue; and he feels the issue is sporadic and might relate to the Flexo Fold tolerances; some vibrate and some do not. He also said the factory is looking to make the Gori as an option and while more expensive the tolerances from one to the next is better. That sounded plausible to me since our 51 and 54 do not have this problem. " Miami, I too have the flex-o-fold and although there seem to be a very, very slight vibration at higher revs, having experienced vibration from a bent drive shaft on a previous boat with a flex-o-fold that was very noticeable, to me it is nothing to be concerned about yet. Like the guy said, some do and some don’t. The other issues raised, I can agree with, like doors that won’t close because the locks don’t line up, silly thinks that happen through lack of attention to the small detail and seemly lack of quality control. My boat is too new to have experienced some of the issues raised here and I do have the Lithium batteries which hopefully won’t result in sealed battery problems experienced by others. Also the newer build boats have the more up to date Raymarine navigation electronics, however, the jury is still out on that one as I have experienced some software crashing and restarting that never happened on the simpler E chart plotters. As mentioned before all yachts from all manufacturers have some level of snagging problems which we are all aware of, that’s why we have shake down cruises to find and put right these issues. Personally, I am very happy with the boat but believe just a little bit more quality control would have gone a long way to reduce all the silly problems. It’s as if Jeanneau have a policy of build them quick get them out and sort the problems at dealer level.
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Post by goody on Mar 26, 2019 8:50:57 GMT
Hi All, To share the good and bad I confirm that we also have some vibration at the motor but I am not sure if its the shaft or the prop. We have had the white smoke above 2400 revs but we are assured this is steam We dont have the door closure or hatch issues, we are all good there. We dont seem to have the davit leak issue but we havent been offshore yet We have had the same problems with nav screens and both have been replaced Performance, with the in mast and self tacking gear, these boat are way under done and slow until it gets to 15 knots plus, once it gets there we are competitive but thats all manageable with additional sails and the code 0 we bought after market makes a huge difference. This means that we can sail in 5 to 10 knots now.
We love our boat, it is comfortable fun, motors well and sails well in a breeze, we dont reef at all actually. yet. We have sailed many miles (coatsal) and the boat is safe and predictable with no real issues.
We have added solar, a glass partition between the galley and the back of the seats, a water maker and the code 0.
Its always a compromise but we dont regret out investment.
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Post by miami on Mar 28, 2019 4:45:04 GMT
Goody, Thank you for your comments.
I ordered our boat with a classic main sail, 110 Genoa and the upgraded mylar sails and with a factory code zero on a flex furler. The polar diagrams for the JY51 indicate that it will sail at 7 1/2 knots in 8 kts of wind on beam.
I'm really worried about poor sailing performance and was sold on this boat based on the polars. it was a major reason we didn't choose another. I haven't actually closed yet so if this is a huge mistake I could still bail out and loose my deposit. What do you think? Is this going ot be a dog in 8-12 kts of wind? If so that is a major concern...
Separately, do you have any photos you can share on the glass partition?
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Post by miami on Mar 28, 2019 4:47:37 GMT
PROP VIBRATION We actually spoke to Jeanneau about this and they acknowledged the problem. Below was the response we received form our dealer: "I just hung up with a tech director who is even more informed. Spoke to him about this vibration issue; and he feels the issue is sporadic and might relate to the Flexo Fold tolerances; some vibrate and some do not. He also said the factory is looking to make the Gori as an option and while more expensive the tolerances from one to the next is better. That sounded plausible to me since our 51 and 54 do not have this problem. " Miami, I too have the flex-o-fold and although there seem to be a very, very slight vibration at higher revs, having experienced vibration from a bent drive shaft on a previous boat with a flex-o-fold that was very noticeable, to me it is nothing to be concerned about yet. Like the guy said, some do and some don’t. The other issues raised, I can agree with, like doors that won’t close because the locks don’t line up, silly thinks that happen through lack of attention to the small detail and seemly lack of quality control. My boat is too new to have experienced some of the issues raised here and I do have the Lithium batteries which hopefully won’t result in sealed battery problems experienced by others. Also the newer build boats have the more up to date Raymarine navigation electronics, however, the jury is still out on that one as I have experienced some software crashing and restarting that never happened on the simpler E chart plotters. As mentioned before all yachts from all manufacturers have some level of snagging problems which we are all aware of, that’s why we have shake down cruises to find and put right these issues. Personally, I am very happy with the boat but believe just a little bit more quality control would have gone a long way to reduce all the silly problems. It’s as if Jeanneau have a policy of build them quick get them out and sort the problems at dealer level.
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Post by miami on Mar 28, 2019 4:52:37 GMT
JY51: Thank you also for your comments. I didn't opt for the lithium batteries because I had heard they has some issues and it was a really expensive option. I didn't realize the sealed exide batteries had experienced problems too. We had a flex-o-fold on our last boat and we never had any problems with it. I'll guess we'll see what happens.
I'm well aware of all the problems with new boats. This is my fourth with 3 Beneteaus before. But its great to hear from other owners like your self to gain some insight and hopefully avoid or look out for some of the issues mentioned.
Have you had a chance to sail it yet? How is your boat rig setup?
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Post by markclement on Mar 28, 2019 9:57:44 GMT
Goody, Thank you for your comments. I ordered our boat with a classic main sail, 110 Genoa and the upgraded mylar sails and with a factory code zero on a flex furler. The polar diagrams for the JY51 indicate that it will sail at 7 1/2 knots in 8 kts of wind on beam. I'm really worried about poor sailing performance and was sold on this boat based on the polars. it was a major reason we didn't choose another. I haven't actually closed yet so if this is a huge mistake I could still bail out and loose my deposit. What do you think? Is this going ot be a dog in 8-12 kts of wind? If so that is a major concern... Separately, do you have any photos you can share on the glass partition? All the details and pictures of our glass partition are on page 2 of this thread. Cheers
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Post by markclement on Mar 28, 2019 11:22:06 GMT
Goody, Thank you for your comments. I ordered our boat with a classic main sail, 110 Genoa and the upgraded mylar sails and with a factory code zero on a flex furler. The polar diagrams for the JY51 indicate that it will sail at 7 1/2 knots in 8 kts of wind on beam. I'm really worried about poor sailing performance and was sold on this boat based on the polars. it was a major reason we didn't choose another. I haven't actually closed yet so if this is a huge mistake I could still bail out and loose my deposit. What do you think? Is this going ot be a dog in 8-12 kts of wind? If so that is a major concern... Separately, do you have any photos you can share on the glass partition? Hi, I am not quite sure what your performance expectations are - after all these are cruising boats not performance yachts. I did look at the J51 polars before our purchase but I am always guarded about polar numbers from manufacturers - for eg I think the Dufour 520 polars are overstated. I was more influenced by the spec numbers (WL / draft / SA / ballast and all the relevant ratios). My comments might be more useful if I knew what alternative yacht you are referring to. I believe the J51 would have the edge slightly on the Beneteau 51.1 and although the Dufour 520 has a very slippery hull the J51 has more sail area and stiffer due to better ballast ratio and I think they will be very similar with the J51 longer waterline giving it a slight edge in performance. We have never been disappointed in our yachts performance (same rig as yours) and other experienced racing sailors that have sailed on her were surprised how quick she is for a large well appointed cruising yacht. Remember our rig is 25% more area than Goody's plus it is a higher aspect ratio rig as "E" (mainsail foot) on the in-mast furling main is 6.3M and 6.0M on our classic main. In a regatta last year the wind was 8 to 10 kts in the first half then strengthened to 16/20 kts in the second half. Spinnaker boats could only use them on two legs. - we finished in 2.49.35 sailing Non Spinnaker. - a Beneteau Sense 50 sailing Spinnaker finished 2.57.07 - a Beneteau Oceanis 50 classic main and Spinnaker finished in 3.04.20 - a Beneteau First 50 (racing version) sailing Spinnaker 2.42.54 At the end of the day we were totally convinced that the J51 was the boat for us and it hasn't disappointed - at anchor / cruising / racing in cruising divisions. Cheers
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Post by jy51 on Mar 28, 2019 14:07:28 GMT
JY51: Thank you also for your comments. I didn't opt for the lithium batteries because I had heard they has some issues and it was a really expensive option. I didn't realize the sealed exide batteries had experienced problems too. We had a flex-o-fold on our last boat and we never had any problems with it. I'll guess we'll see what happens. I'm well aware of all the problems with new boats. This is my fourth with 3 Beneteaus before. But its great to hear from other owners like your self to gain some insight and hopefully avoid or look out for some of the issues mentioned. Have you had a chance to sail it yet? How is your boat rig setup? We have the standard sails with in mast furling and overlapping 110 genoa. We are not racers, but have the boat as a lifestyle, cruising and anchoring for months on end. I tend to sail the boat single handed with my wife as chief cook (sorry if I sound a little male chauvinist, but the wife prefers it like that, although she does enjoy taking the helm in less than 12 knots of wind) We have currently taken a berth opposite the commissioning yard in the south of France and are customising and waiting for the snagging list to be attended to before sailing her back to Spain and our winter berth. Our previous boat was a Hallberg Rassy 37, far more suitable for the northern hemisphere, much smaller and a different animal altogether. The bigger heavier, Jeanneau with the modern wide beamed flatter bottomed hull shape and bigger sail plan, picks up speed and sails like a dream, and I am pleasantly surprised that she tracks well and copes with rough weather, with little slamming. Having had reversing problems with a deep bodied longer keel boat I find the Jeanneau a breeze to manoeuvre in tight spaces, thankfully with the help of her bow thruster.. I recall being told once that when you go up from a 30 something footer to a much larger boat everything changes, somewhat like going from a dingy to a yacht, I found this to be very true, I am still learning her characteristics but sailing down wind off the coast of Saint Tropez in 25 + knots of wind on genoa alone as stable as a rock and making 8 knots put a smile on my face. Even when the wind started to veer and we went from 150 to 90 degrees on the port beam she still felt perfectly balanced with just the genoa and no main, something my Hallberg would not have coped with. Regarding your comments to others on sailing in 12 knots of wind, our first sail with, admittedly poor sail trim, saw us tramping along at over 7 knots in a similar breeze. Personally I am more than pleased with the sailing performance.
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Post by markclement on Mar 29, 2019 6:47:16 GMT
Hi Miami, This is our boat during Cruising Helmsman boat test August 2017 sailing near the heads of Sydney Harbour. From memory it was about 8 to 10 knots true breeze and during this video we would have something like 90deg to true wind. www.facebook.com/jeanneauaustralia/videos/1660190344015655/I think she is going ok with good speed ..... even though the breeze is light and the headsail is only 110%
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Post by goody on Apr 1, 2019 17:48:49 GMT
Hi all, Just to qualify earlier comments as mark pointed out my rig is in mast furling and self tacker so its only 110sqm but the code 0 is the 115 by itself and makes a massive difference in light air so I would strongly recommend having one.
In a breeze it is more than competitive and I will get an overlapping sail shortly but even with the self tacker we did a 8 hour trip in 25 knots and averaged 9 knots hitting 11 and 12 at times so definately not slow in a decent breeze (It was a true angle of around 80 degrees)
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Post by ania on Apr 1, 2019 20:36:18 GMT
Hi all, Just to qualify earlier comments as mark pointed out my rig is in mast furling and self tacker so its only 110sqm but the code 0 is the 115 by itself and makes a massive difference in light air so I would strongly recommend having one. In a breeze it is more than competitive and I will get an overlapping sail shortly but even with the self tacker we did a 8 hour trip in 25 knots and averaged 9 knots hitting 11 and 12 at times so definately not slow in a decent breeze (It was a true angle of around 80 degrees) Goody, how did they end up fixing your water in the tank issue?
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