SeaDarer
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Posts: 6
Jeanneau Model: 51 Yacht
Yacht Name: SeaDarer
Home Port: Sidney
Country: Canada
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Post by SeaDarer on Oct 23, 2019 16:24:41 GMT
Oops, hit the wrong button on that last post. Also, I’m late to this thread as I only just came across it.
What i was intending to relay is that on my JY51 with the ice maker, I have simply plugged it in to the 110V inverter supply via an extension cord as a temporary test. I make ice while connected to shore power and then turn the temperature up for cruising. The freezer draws 27A while cooling and then shuts off for a period of time. It does not draw any more cumulative power in total than the other freezer does. This is because the heat entering the freezer is a function of the insulation and interior temperature and it does not really matter what the brief the current requirements are.
My inverter is a Magnum Pure Sin Wave 2812 and has no trouble at all with handling the current and does not heat up at all during this use so it is very quiet.
I also use a Balmar SD200 battery monitor to monitor the total charge of the batteries and recommend this type of equipment for monitoring your electrical use.
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Post by Alan Cape Coral on Oct 27, 2019 19:27:50 GMT
I just had an offer accepted on a 2018 JY51. I have enjoyed reading all of the posts. I look forward to sharing and learning with the group.
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Post by goody on Oct 31, 2019 7:38:03 GMT
Hi Ania, If the batteries are disconnected then the bilge pumps dont work. I get a little bit of water in the bilge but not much and generally it is just a little rain water from coming in and out when raining but also from the side windows to the aft cabins which I leave open even when raining as we have a sides and bimini. We do get water down the wells which comes down under the dodger and onto the seats and then in the window if open but it has to be serious water to do that.
I have had some door handle issues recently where the handles are coming apart and I havent worked that through yet. Anyone else? Also there are some new photos on the Jeanneau website which feature La Bonne Maison as they came down and did a new photoshoot a few months back.
Cheers
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Post by goody on Oct 31, 2019 7:48:28 GMT
Sorry guys, I picked up the thread on page 6 for some reason so ignore my last...
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Post by ania on Oct 31, 2019 14:24:03 GMT
I believed we sold our water in the engine pen issue. Aft AC condensation pump hose broke off from the reservoir. Dealer supplied us with few new ones, since it's also broken off from mid cabin unit, except in case of mid cabin, condensation is flowing straight to the bilge, and aft cabin excess condensation is flowing into the engine pen since engine is directly forward of the unit. We'd get few gallons of water easily.
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Post by ania on Oct 31, 2019 14:31:39 GMT
Goody, here you go, same thing.
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Post by ania on Oct 31, 2019 14:52:28 GMT
Here are few other things that happened to us so far and for you guys to watch out for. This one is Generator bracket that holding it down. It wasn't place in the right place. Dealer tried to fix it once and it came off again. Flimsy swim platform issue. Companionway entry sliding door holder came off. You don't want that to happen since if that drain is clogged, water will get in through the screw holes. Took us a while to figure that one out. Port cabin floor boards are not secured level, not fixed yet. Rudder linkage sheave, got the part didn't fix yet. Not sure what that part is called, but its at the mast head holding Code Zero Block at the base of the mast. This one is a crack of the truster tunnel, not the tunnel itself but gelcoat on top of it. It's under forward cabin bed. Dealer fixed it. And on the positive note, this is our Max Prop, that's so far been Wonderfull ;-) Guys, keep shearing your issues so we can fix it before warranty expires.
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Post by Alan Cape Coral on Nov 7, 2019 16:40:22 GMT
I just had an offer accepted on a 2018 JY51. I have enjoyed reading all of the posts. I look forward to sharing and learning with the group.
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Post by Alan Cape Coral on Nov 7, 2019 22:50:36 GMT
I am in the process of purchasing a used 2018 Jeanneau Yacht 51. I was wondering if anyone has any experience to share regarding the retractable dinghy davits. The pair is rated at 484 pounds total. My total weight of dinghy and engine is only 300. Do you sail with the engine mounted on the dinghy. Are the davits stable? Do you recommend putting the engine on a stern rail mount for long passages?
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Post by jy51 on Nov 8, 2019 7:55:04 GMT
Hi, I have a relatively large 3.2 meter inflatable with a small 2.5 hp outboard and have no problems with sailing in most conditions with the davits deployed and the inflatable and motor attached. However, if I was making a long passage with the possibility of bad weather I would think it prudent to store the outbound on the pushpit regardless of its weight. Personally I would be a little cautious if I had a much larger and heavier outboard. Remember, these davits are very practical but do not expect them to cope like the more substantial Simpson davits you find on Oysters and Hallbergs.
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Post by rannoch on Nov 19, 2019 13:50:41 GMT
Hi,
I have a Jeanneau 51 (Hull 50) which I bought in April 18. It was Jeanneau's La Rochelle show boat.
We have just spent 7 months on her down in the Med covering some 3500nm.
She sails beautifully however we have had a few issues. Getting warranty work done when you are not berthed where your dealer is based is incredibly difficult.
Main issues were:
1. Headling's kept falling down 2. Bilge pump faulty 3. Gel coat crack appeared on drop down swim platform 4. Led lights on ships compasses failed 5. ZF30M gearbox does not go directly into forward. Currently trying to get it fixed under warranty.
Yacht is called Big Sky and we are over wintering her in Sant Carles Marina which is halfway between Valencia and Barcelona
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Post by jy51 on Nov 20, 2019 12:02:28 GMT
Hi, I have a Jeanneau 51 (Hull 50) which I bought in April 18. It was Jeanneau's La Rochelle show boat. We have just spent 7 months on her down in the Med covering some 3500nm. She sails beautifully however we have had a few issues. Getting warranty work done when you are not berthed where your dealer is based is incredibly difficult. Main issues were: 1. Headling's kept falling down 2. Bilge pump faulty 3. Gel coat crack appeared on drop down swim platform 4. Led lights on ships compasses failed 5. ZF30M gearbox does not go directly into forward. Currently trying to get it fixed under warranty. Yacht is called Big Sky and we are over wintering her in Sant Carles Marina which is halfway between Valencia and Barcelona rannoch, It seems we are neighbours! Our Jeanneau 51 Coco is on the hard at Sant Carles Marina, we have a six month winter contract with the boatyard. Our boat is currently having warranty work and additions carried out by Robert of ASANU, he also has a chandlery by the carpark.
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Post by rannoch on Nov 20, 2019 15:14:20 GMT
Thats a coincedence. How long have you had your 51? I have to say i have found it really difficult to get warranty work done. Jeanneau have been less than helpful. I currently have a gearbox issue which ZF are claiming is out of warranty because it was supplied to Jeanneau in 2017. I purchased my 51 in April 18 and the gearbox has 600 hrs on it!
Great boat it is just a shame about some niggly issues. We re berthed stern to on D pontoon. Where are you based in the UK?
David
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Post by jy51 on Nov 21, 2019 8:34:52 GMT
Thats a coincedence. How long have you had your 51? I have to say i have found it really difficult to get warranty work done. Jeanneau have been less than helpful. I currently have a gearbox issue which ZF are claiming is out of warranty because it was supplied to Jeanneau in 2017. I purchased my 51 in April 18 and the gearbox has 600 hrs on it! Great boat it is just a shame about some niggly issues. We re berthed stern to on D pontoon. Where are you based in the UK? David David, I have sent you a personal message on this forum.
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Post by markclement on Nov 21, 2019 22:35:47 GMT
Hi all with folding davits on the J51, Just returned home after a month in Japan to find out a friend at our Yacht Club marina had to secure my inflatable when an anchor point on the davits failed on the starboard davit. I discovered the port one was also close to wearing through. - Hull #11 and has had the AB RIB on the davits since commissioning in early August 2017 - 28 months. - AB Lamina RIB 43kgs - Tohatsu 9.8 hp 2 stroke weighs 26kgs but it is only on the RIB when at our destination - est equivalent to 4 months over the time we have had the boat when the davits have carried 80kg (10kg fuel). - I installed the pulleys and lines myself as they were bundled in a plastic bag in the cockpit locker and it seemed obvious to install the pulley with the shackle into the cast “lug” that is part of the sheave head casting at the end of davit. You can see the starboard “cast lug attachment” wore completely through and dropped the AB some 70cm until the dislodged mini - block jammed into the blocks on the dinghy strop. This will obviously happen with every davit you guys have if you like me had a s/s shackle moving in a Al lug - it might take longer depending how often you have your dinghy on the davits and how much movement you get (our marina does get waves causing the dinghy to swing slightly) - but it will happen. Bit annoyed at myself - a retired metallurgist should have realised that a forged s/s shackle pin was always going to wear through a cast aluminium lug ... but then the davit manufacturer definitely and maybe Jeanneau should have also realised this failure was inevitable. Regards Mark www.23hq.com/MarkClement/photo/62478893/originalwww.23hq.com/MarkClement/photo/62478871/original
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Post by rene460 on Nov 22, 2019 9:58:55 GMT
Hi Mark, it looks like that aluminium cast fitting did a good job of protecting that shackle! A bit like the electrical device that protected the fuse by blowing first that I read about once. I guess that it did not require waves, just rain water and the salt that is always in the air would do it. But always surprising how little time it takes.
Not immediately obvious how the block should have been attached to have the required insulating properties combined with the required wear resistance in that or any similar application. Tef-gel would not be much help there.
I will be interested to see your solution, but I think I would be inclined now to bend a stainless strip around the Davit end, (a bit like a hose clip with its bolt through the remainder of the hole). The lungs of the band could be long enough to be drilled to hand the shackle. All installed over a plastic tape to insulate the band and Ted-gel on the bolt. What ever it takes to provide the insulation and avoid wear between the different metals.
Good to have neighbours in the marina who will do something helpful when such things occur while you are away.
rene460
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Post by rannoch on Nov 22, 2019 13:57:44 GMT
Hi Mark,
Idon't think i have this problem. I have not however inspected these anchoring points recently. Whilst in the med we tend to tow the dingy a lot without engine. Stainless steel shackles were definitely in the kit for installing pulleys rope etc. My problem is i have broken the casting just under the deck where lugs on the bottom of the telescopic part recess into the 2 operating positions. Trying to find a parts list for them is proving difficult. Jeanneau not being helpfull yet again. David
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Post by rene460 on Nov 23, 2019 9:18:31 GMT
Hi Mark, thinking some more about that davit block hanger, the nearest comparable arrangements on my boat are the topping lift which attaches to the aluminium boom end fitting by a SS shackle and the pins in the gooseneck end boom fitting. I sure many other boats have similar. Come to think of it, there are similarly supports shackle arrangements on the job furler.
The main difference I can see is the black coating on the aluminium. I don’t know what it is, but it clearly provides the necessary insulation as all seem good after nearly ten years now. The load on the topping lift shackle is probably quite low compared with a dingy, as the weight of the boom is largely taken by the solid vang. I also attach the main halliard shackle to the same loop when not sailing, so the load is divided. But loads on the gooseneck pin are high, at least when sailing close hauled.
There have been the odd reports on the forum in the time I have been following of gooseneck pins showing severe wear, or was it corrosion? But it does not seem common. But perhaps it indicates a thin insulating sleeve on the shackle pin might be enough.
I suspect this topic is a common arrangement on all models. A pity to have it lost in this 51 specific thread. How do you feel about suggesting to Malcolm that we split it out to a separate topic?
rene460
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Post by johannes on Nov 23, 2019 9:27:52 GMT
The anodisation on the boom fitting wears off quickly where you attach a shackle, so I don't think it provides any protection. In this case I suspect it is just different qualities of aluminium alloy. The boom end fitting being much harder and wear-resistant.
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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 25, 2019 18:42:05 GMT
I have locked this thread as although has excellent content has become too unwieldy to search and view at over 11 pages.
Please start new Jeanneau 51 threads but do specify the area of interest not simply be generic Jeanneau 51.
Please also remember that many items on Jeanneau's are common to many models.
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