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Post by ArmyChief on Jun 29, 2018 1:19:35 GMT
Ron,
Sent you an email last week, just making sure you received.
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Capt’n Jack
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Posts: 7
Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 795
Yacht Name: Escape
Home Port: Conwy
Country: United Kimgdom
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Post by Capt’n Jack on Jul 26, 2018 21:58:31 GMT
Hello, does anyone have any experience of a 795 with a Yamaha 150 engine? My budget will not stretch to a new boat and I have found a nearly new boat but it only has the 150 and I would prefer and think that the boat would need the 200. Thank you in advance.
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Post by lynnardm on Jul 27, 2018 2:14:25 GMT
Jackfrost
My previous boat was a 695 with a Yamaha F200. It was a perfect match. I tried a 695 with a 150 and although sufficient I wanted more power. Based on info reported by folks on their 795 props (in this forum) and the 200HP motors I’d say that the 150HP motor, for most people, would be under powered for a 795.
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Capt’n Jack
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Posts: 7
Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 795
Yacht Name: Escape
Home Port: Conwy
Country: United Kimgdom
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Post by Capt’n Jack on Jul 28, 2018 17:29:14 GMT
Thank you Lynn and Capt Ron for the advice. I am preferring the 795 but cannot stretch to a new boat and used boats are scarce in the UK. I have found one available but it has a Mercury Verado 200 1.7L Supercharged. It is the only one I have seen with this engine. Does anyone have any experience of this engine and would this be preferable to say a 795 with a Yamaha 150 as nothing available with a Yamaha 200. Thank you in advance.
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Post by paulmcc on Aug 4, 2018 12:14:15 GMT
I think the Verado 200 would be very suitable. The new 795's are all sold with the Mercury Verado 175 or 200 as default here. I think the 795 needs 200hp. I chose Yamaha but would be happy with either.
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delly
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Yes I know my way...
Posts: 10
Jeanneau Model: Merry fisher 795
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Post by delly on Aug 4, 2018 15:35:04 GMT
200 hp at least. And choose the right propeller. 14 ! advice of a friend. regards, Delly.
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Post by mmaverickmm on Aug 12, 2018 15:57:05 GMT
Hello all,
Just in the process of dealing on a new MF795 out of Richmond, British Columbia, and wondering if anyone has any tips on things they wished they’d done from the start at the dealer. My biggest concern is the 200 hp motor. I understand that’s what the majority of everyone is using, but would a 250 not make sense? Is there anyone out there running in the west coast near where I will be? Interested to hear how the hull design has performed in similar waters to what’s local to me.
Looking forward to being an active member of the forum and appreciate everyone’s time!
thanks!
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Post by ajtexas on Aug 13, 2018 2:03:12 GMT
OK, let me see if I can address some of your question based on my experience and setup.
First off, the 695 was not a good compromise for me, it’s too small for a weekender and capacity of people I will have on my boat. To be honest I probably would have gone with the 855 if I had the budget as it just gives you that extra bit of space, but I trailer the 795 so it's pretty easy getting around. I am very pleased with the 795!!
There were only two options I found for this class of boat in the US, the 795 and the Cutwater 24 outboard. I sea trialed both and while Cutwater paid closer attention to interior design and has a larger motor (300hp), the 795 performed much better hands down. I think a lot has to do with hull design and beam width.
You are correct in it’s difficult to get information about the boat, options, or others experience. Much of it depends on the dealer you are working with and mine has been and still is a total disaster. From the 2nd day of considering the boat back in February I knew more about the boat than the dealer Sales person.
Here are some good things to know: - Out of the options I ordered, I never could find out which ones were factory or add on by the dealer, and to date I still don’t. The 795 does come with shore power and has two 115 outlets, one below the table on the left side, which is also where the main AC outlet on/off button is located. The other outlet is located under the sink, which is a ridicules location so I had the dealer add another outlet on the top side of galley. I added an 1800W inverter so I could run without having to be plugged into shore power. It’s nice, but it’s also limited as I tried to use a small Keurig and the boiler drew too much power and the inverter shut down.
Here are options I added: - VHF/AIS radio – you are correct, it does not come with a radio which is crazy, so I added that on my dime
- No horn. That's right, the boat does not have an option for a horn which I didn't know until I took delivery. - Electronics – I ordered the boat with no electronics with the exception of the Yamaha Command Link Plus. I was told I could upgrade to the Lowrance HDS Gen3 9, which I did, but it ended up not fitting in the console so it is mounted with the brackets instead of a flush mount. I was disappointed, but the 7inch screen wasn’t going to work for what I needed. The dealer ended up installing the chart plotter, radar, and structure scan 3D. One thing to note is I wanted the radar overlay but the dealer missed the installing the rate compass which is required for radar/chart overlay so I’ll be adding that myself within the next week or so. But to your question, I don’t see any reason you couldn’t add another brand of electronics, but keep in mind the console is only big enough for a 7” unit. - Bow Thruster – This was an option I went back and forth on, but I’m glad I got it. Works great and yes I do get jabs from my other friends who don’t have one about cheating, but whatever, it’s really slick. - Added downrigger plugs and the dealer suggested to go with gimbal mounts for my downrigger instead of installing mounting plates. Big mistake, I was out last week and the first time I hit the switch to pull up my lines it pulled the rod holder an inch out of the socket and cracked the fiberglass around the rod holder. - Hot water heater – I added this, but found out after the fact that the inverter could not handle the power draw so I can only use it when on shore power. This is the one option I probably wouldn’t do again, but maybe time will change my mind. - Curtains – nice add for overnight trips - Added rocket launchers and a kayak roof mount - Upgraded the head toilet to electric and added a macerator - Added two more rod holders on the gunwale - Added cup holders: two in dash on passenger side, one on captain side, and two in the back open area. Just like auto’s, the Euro’s don’t pay much attention to comfort items as much as they do performance. - Added fusion two zone audio system. Nice addition - Added windlass switch on the command console - Added 9.9hp Yamaha kicker with the Garmin TR1 autopilot
Things I should have added: - Additional USB charging port on the passenger side for phones and a fan. It gets pretty warm in the boat when stopped given all the windows. Considered AC, but it would only work on shore power anyway. - Trim tabs – the boat always has a lean to the port side so tabs would be nice to level out, and given passenger seating is also on the port side. - Add a horn As for deals, I wasn’t able to do much other than the boat show special, which really isn’t a special since it’s still the same price today. As you can tell, I am into fishing and rigged it as such for me, as well as keeping my wife happy with a cozy enclosed cabin! I know this was long winded, but I hope it helps you in your decision process. Cheers, Ron
Hi Ron, thanks for the quality feedback and posts. You mentioned you trailer your 795, what is your current rig and recommendation as far as towing vehicle? Can't find reliable weight on line nor on Jeanneau website. reason I ask is the eternal debate 795 vs 895. Could use the extra space, cabin and engine on the 895 but I'd like to trailer it around Texas for the weekend with only wife as first mate. Would also rather not go for a larger diesel truck, currently own a Yukon rated 8500 lbs towing capability, but sounds like the 895 is above that. Thanks, AJ
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Post by paulmcc on Aug 13, 2018 2:18:37 GMT
Trim tabs, bow thruster, radio, horn, extra usbs at least. Hull rated to 200hp by Jeanneau but I know of 755 and 795 Marlin here running 250s. For me 200hp plenty though.
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Post by howesounder on Oct 26, 2018 7:13:24 GMT
Hello all, Just in the process of dealing on a new MF795 out of Richmond, British Columbia, and wondering if anyone has any tips on things they wished they’d done from the start at the dealer. My biggest concern is the 200 hp motor. I understand that’s what the majority of everyone is using, but would a 250 not make sense? Is there anyone out there running in the west coast near where I will be? Interested to hear how the hull design has performed in similar waters to what’s local to me. Looking forward to being an active member of the forum and appreciate everyone’s time! thanks!
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Post by howesounder on Oct 26, 2018 7:16:40 GMT
Hi All,
I'm super happy to share my experience with my recently purchased MF795. I was really concerned that it might be underpowered with its 150hp Yamaha, given the weight of the boat being almost 5000 lbs. But I asked the surveyor who told me during the sea trial that it was just fine given the reasonably efficient hull. I recently put it at max throttle on relatively smooth inlet waters, and with three people, achieved 29 knots. So to anyone concerned about power, I can confirm that 150hp Yamaha is very adequately powered. 200 hp would be fine, of course, but I personally don't see the need to spend the additional amount to get that. As for 250hp, I think that would be significantly overpowered. Hope that helps.
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Oct 26, 2018 18:23:47 GMT
Hi Howesounder, this has been a great thread with good information. You have probably also seen the other thread “Merry fisher 795 with Yamaha 200 hp : 5000 rpm WOT”, which has some great performance feedback from others.
I get what you are saying in regards to speed, but you will find a lot of the discussions have been around performance versus WOT speed, and performance is also very subjective depending on your use and expectations. I’ve also found my expectations have changed from when I first bought the boat to now given I’ve used it in a lot of different conditions. Example, when I’m out by myself with a half tank of fuel she pops out of the water pretty quick, but when I have a full tank and four or more people on board she feels like it takes forever (actually only a few seconds more) to get up on plane, but it goes through my head I wish I had a bigger engine. I was also recently out on the ocean fishing and found I couldn’t keep up with the ocean swells, which made the trip (30 miles out) much longer and frustrating. A 225 with a different prop would more than likely be the right setup for those conditions, but my fuel efficiency wouldn’t be as good as the 200. From a cruising standpoint I typically like to cruise between 24 and 26 knots (around 4600 rpm), which gives me pretty good fuel efficiency (2.8 mpg), but if I open to WOT I can hit 33 knots at 5400 and use 18.5 gph, gulp! There is also the price difference consideration between a 150-200-225. So my advice to others looking to purchase a 795 is to evaluate how you will use the boat and adjust to your expectations, but no matter what, you will always be left wanting more (power or size), that’s boating!
Btw: I highly recommend adding trim tabs! It should be a standard option like on the 895’s.
Cheers!
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Post by howesounder on Oct 26, 2018 18:41:06 GMT
Thanks Cap'n Ron. You make great points there for sure. It definitely depends on what different boat buyers want. My main thing is to reassure boat buyers that the 150hp is by no means terrible for the 795. For many, it will be just fine.
Appreciate the tip on the trim tabs. I'll look into it!
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Post by howesounder on Nov 1, 2018 23:33:12 GMT
Hi Cap'n Ron and the rest of the 795 community!
The downriggers are now mounted on my boat as per Cap'n Ron's method, which I highly recommend to everybody else. The only thing that was needed was to shave just a thin layer off the side plate that connects the mounting plate to the mounting platform. Then it fit perfectly. They guy helping me figured that enhancement and it's pretty good!
I've read a bit about how people got their cables for the antenna routed down to the console area, but wasn't quite sure I understand. Can anyone kindly help me understand a bit more specifically how they routed that cable down? I understand the roof of the boat actually is quite complicated inside, involving even two layers in some areas, and also, that the pillars are not that hollow. Any advice on what has worked would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Post by jnorris on Jan 4, 2019 23:30:16 GMT
Hello All, I purchased a used MF 755 in British Columbia in late 2017, the boat is from 2014, dark blue, with a Yamaha F200. We have spent the last 1.5 years upgrading her while using the boat throughout the Howe Sound.
The upgrades that have been completed are:
1. Roof rack with roof mounted standup paddleboard holders. 2. Clarion GR10BT sound system which provides amazing sound on these boats, with both interior and exterior speakers. 3. BBQ mounted on the starboard side hand rail. 4. Rod holders mounted on the upper hand rails by the sliding door. 5. LED interior strip light mounted around the cabin windshield, front, starboard, and port. 6. Roof mounted thule basket for traps. 7. Replaced cabin table with homemade hardwood table. 8. Added downrigger mount to starboard side, similar mounting to Captain Ron!
The upgrades that I would love some input on, which I would like to complete this winter are: A. Has anyone installed an awning, either retractable or fixed, at the back of the boat. This is a much needed addition. Any information would be greatly appreciated on how you mounted it. I am considering building a retractable awning or an awning that can mount to some tubing that is adjustable in the two stern rod holders.
B. We would like to install a diesel air heater (Webasto, Planar or Espar) and I'm looking to find the best type and location to install one. Any good/bad experiences would be appreciated.
The boat has been great, despite a few annoying issues. The main issues that I have learned from along the way are: 1. Don't trust the setup of the fuel gauge, mine read and currently reads about 50% when the boat is nearly out of gas. 2. The factory battery switches that came on the 755 can sporadically fail to disconnect the 12V circuit. This is discussed elsewhere in this forum however it stems from a nut that loosens within the red handle on each disconnect switch. Make sure that these are tightened and always turned clockwise. 3. The fuel tank vent line was tied out of the way with two large zip ties from the factory. This year, the zip ties caused a kink in the vent, making for an annoying week of troubleshooting. Although only sightly kinked, the vent line caused the engine to bog down above 2000rpm. 4. I am still tracing through a few minor leaks in the boat. Most seem to be caused by caulking that is wearing on the stainless screws, or just screws that are loosening over time. As your 795's age, keep in mind that all screws need tightening and re-caulking. Also, the factory rod holders have bottom covers that are caulked in place and will fall off. I currently have a very tiny leak at the front of the hull, right under anchor chain box. If any of you have dealt with similar leaks, it would be great to develop a group to troubleshoot them. The main fun part about this boat is that they are so compartmentalized that areas are fun to access. I have been cutting access holes in the wooden hull panels as required. I'll post some pictures as I figure out how! www.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50316845/originalwww.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50316632/originalwww.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50316649/originalwww.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50316718/original
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 5, 2019 7:55:37 GMT
Great photos jnorris thanks for posting
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Post by nanus18 on Jan 5, 2019 14:01:57 GMT
Jnorris,
Thanks for your comments, could you put pictures of the placement of the LED strips in the cabin to port and starboard?
Regards,
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Jan 6, 2019 19:00:42 GMT
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Post by jnorris on Jan 6, 2019 23:47:11 GMT
Ron, Thanks for the reply. Your sunshade looks great, fits the boat perfectly! My main goal is for shelter from the rain while fishing or on the deck, as such, I need something a bit more robust and weatherproof. I'm thinking of a downward sloping canvas that would allow you to sit at the back seats but not stand. Ideally, the slope could be adjusted for different weather and to ensure that rain/snow drain off of the awning well enough. In my case, my rod holders are off the side handles, so an awning wont interfere.
I will also respond about the heater on your new page, I bet we can brainstorm the best installation! Nanus, I used a 5m long LED light strip that came with a remote control. I chose the single color white, but you can also get them in multicolor. You can find many different brands on Amazon. A 5m length is just enough for our boat, the installation worked well. I punched a 3/8" hole in the rear starboard upright and fed wire down from the top, relatively easy. The LED's come with adhesive backing which did not hold securely, I added a bead of silicone to the back every few inches which worked out perfectly. The LED's are hidden well enough that you can't even tell that they are there when they're off.
Here are some pics for those that are interested: www.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50375008/originalwww.23hq.com/JNorris/photo/50375033/originalThe last two pics show the location of the rod holders, I was not expecting it to work as well as it did Thanks Jeremy
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Post by nanus18 on Jan 7, 2019 9:57:29 GMT
Hi Jeremy
Thank you very much for the photos, both above the windows and below them there is a gap for the LED strip, the problem is to pass the cable from the control panel switches especially to port, I have chosen a switch three positions on / off / on so that you can turn on some LEDs on the access ladders to port and starboard and the other position for the interior light (LEDs)
As soon as we have finished the placement I upload photos
Regards,
Nanus
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admare795
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Posts: 7
Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 795
Country: Finland
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Post by admare795 on Mar 5, 2019 20:01:16 GMT
Hi, Has anyone any experience or information why in new MF 795 models there has been assembled metallic black pillar (about 3 cm x 3 cm) inside the cabin beside the sliding window between the window frame and the roof? Construction has been seen in a brandnew boat in boat exhibition in February 2019 in Finland. Dealer was not able to explain this new construction. Should we be concerned and start consider similar also to older models of MF 795? Unfortunately I was not able to post picture for your reference.
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Mar 5, 2019 21:09:23 GMT
Hi Nanus, I believe you are referring to this photo? There wasn’t a 2019 795 at the Seattle boat show this year so I haven’t seen this in person yet, and I haven’t heard why they have added it. I’m not concerned and haven’t seen any issues in that area to understand why they would have added that support. I know I don’t like it!😬
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Post by griffs324 on Mar 6, 2019 14:02:10 GMT
Hello all, I’m interested in a new NC 795. I’ll be boating in the Great South Bay of Long Island. I’m concerned about how this hull handles choppy conditions. Where i am the bay can get pretty choppy when the wind conditions are over 10 knots. I’m relatively new to boating and my first boat was a poor choice for the conditions i typically find. The boat is very light and pounds in the chop unless i really power it down making it a poor choice for a family. I ha e 3 children 12,10,10. We do day trips to Fire Island, light fishing and some tubing near the Connetquot River. Does anyone here feel this hull design is a good fit for the location and activities We like to do? Any information from people in this area or who also deal with choppy water conditions please let me know. Thank you in advance.
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admare795
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Posts: 7
Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 795
Country: Finland
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Post by admare795 on Mar 6, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
Hi Nanus, I believe you are referring to this photo? There wasn’t a 2019 795 at the Seattle boat show this year so I haven’t seen this in person yet, and I haven’t heard why they have added it. I’m not concerned and haven’t seen any issues in that area to understand why they would have added that support. I know I don’t like it!😬 Thanks for your comment. Cannot agree more with you. It defenitely not improve interior of the cabin and looks like ad hoc solution. I have not experienced any problems although we have also run through heavy conditions and hit big waves. Would be interested to know background of this. Maybe need to contact Jeanneau directly. Otherwise I am happy with the boat and seaworthyness of it.
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Mar 6, 2019 23:35:06 GMT
This is the response from the Jeanneau factory. Thanks Nick from Sundance on helping chase this down.
From the Jeanneau rep: "We wanted to follow-up on your inquiry with Sundance regarding the side bars on the NC795 and confirm these bars are onboard all NC795 from all our factory. These are not based on a safety or structural issue, but in fact to better assist upon replacing a potential broken window.
From Jeanneau factory designer (translated from French) "Improvement related to quality, to facilitate the change of windows in case of breakage. No particular worries about the hundreds of boats delivered without."
Since I've not actually seen a new 795 I can't tell from the picture how it facilitates changing the window, but that's why it's there.
Ron
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