Jeanneau Owners Pennant

[ianpowolny]

Any chance of someone designing Jeanneau Owners pennant. I've met a few of thew owners from this web site but only by chance. There must be a design that we could have made/printed independently. Which one of you is a designer and who can suggest a cheap way of making a pennant?

Other ideas welcome.

Ian

[MalcolmP]

Hi Ian

I have considered this several times over the years, and agree it would be very nice to have. The reason I have personally have not gone ahead (but that certainly doesn't exclude others taking it up...) is whilst you can get one-offs made - the price will obviously reduce with volume, but then holding such a stock has issues plus the carriage costs to send out to our very widespread a worldwide membership. Then there is the issue of payment (although that is now much easier with things like PayPal)

A couple of years ago I redesigned and had produced burgees/pennants for my own yacht club



These we sell for £20 which is close to actual cost.

These are made by www.hampshireflag.co.uk/Yacht-Club-Burgees.htm and are well made and look pretty good - the price on their website is for quite a small one - our £20 ones are 18" in the fly which works for most boats from say 25 -45 foot and we had an initial order of 20 units. I suspect that for one off 18" flags direct would be at least £30 plus carriage. But maybe there are members with links to cheaper suppliers elsewhere in the World?

If someone wants to design a pennant and/or logo they would be great. The current "three stars" purple white blue is a reworking - as some already know - of the Jeanneau One Design logo - which I used rather than simply plagerising the main Jeanneau star logo - we might now be able to get approval to use that - but they are strict on their corporate colours etc and I have always felt there is an important distinction that we are a fully independent group, unlike some other "Owners Associations" that get active support from the manufacturers.

Pleased to hear views

Malcolm

[On y va]

The problem usually is the quality and lack of UV stability. Maybe in Northern Europe they last a while, here in the Med they are "eaten" by the sun in a matter of months, as usually you leave these things hanging under your port spreader all the time.

[Don Reaves]

For an organization like the forum, where members are scattered around the world, I think the best thing would be to have a detailed design that could be downloaded and taken to any shop for production. This would avoid issues of inventory, shipping, taxes, etc. It would also leave details like materials (stitched vs silk screened, for instance) and size up to the purchaser.

[ianpowolny]

All, Something like this?



or maybe

. This is JON in Wingdings.

All based on PowerPoint so transferable.

Ian

[Don Reaves]

The wingdings seem a bit obscure to me. How about signal flags. See this for instance.

[MalcolmP]

Hi Ian

looks like you have stared something here ;-) maybe we run a competition if we get lots of options...

Like Don think the code flags rather than wingdings would be better. The Jeanneau star itself is not copyright and the basic compass rose has many options for example: compass rose images  Think we should at least stick with a 8 point star

Malcolm

[MalcolmP]

I had a look at Don's code flags idea, but resulted in a rather multicoloured outcome in my view



So then mocked up a possible burgee in monochrome - but this would read NOJ in mirror if only single printed



However that made me think what does JON actually mean ? - what are we trying to achieve in flying such a flag

So as we are #1 about Jeanneau and people I think that really should be the basis of a house flag, so maybe?



I personally like the grey as it will fit in with all the boats from any year - but that can be changed on a one to one basis. the "people" clip art clearly can be reworked adapted etc

Let me know your views or other ideas...

Then do we have a graphic designer in our midst that might be able to do a a professional rework and produce hi res in say:
.ai .eps .png .pdf files etc?

[ianpowolny]

Malcolm,

So did I and came up with this:



All the parts are made up in PowerPoint so I can give RGB's if needed.

Ian

[Don Reaves]

I agree that the red/yellow colors of the "O" aren't very appealing. One solution might be to change the "O" to the colors of the other letters. Not traditional, but at least it wouldn't change it to another letter.

I like Malcom's idea of using a graphic suggesting a group. I've looked at some icon collections and haven't found anything outstanding. But I'm no graphic artist.

Perhaps a graphic indicating that we have members around the world?

[ianpowolny]

Don,

Like this?




Ian

[MalcolmP]

Looking good Ian

Would be good if globe graphic was less cluttered, as detail cannot be reproduced by most embroidery shops

also if you can re-order the flags to JON - currently reads JNO :-)

Plus making all the colours including the compass rose/Jeanneau star the same, would be good

[MalcolmP]

That simple globe is at: publicdomainvectors.org/photos/1386749018.png

[Don Reaves]

Malcolm -- my wife found that same globe graphic after I told her about this thread. I agree it's a good choice because of its simplicity.

Ian -- It's looking good. But you have the O and N flags reversed.

[ianpowolny]

Don / Malcolm,



This is a 4 colour pennant: Dark Blue (R0, G32, B96), Light Blue (R157, G195, B230). Black and White are standard PowerPoint Colours.

I have all the Power Point slides to make up the pennant. Note that all of the objects are made from the basic PowerPoint pallet so should be easily replicated.

Let me know If we need any more changes. I'll look at a reverse later this week if you think its necessary.

Ian

[sitara]

Looks great Ian, need to do a mock up and see what it looks like from a distance. The detail could vanish?

Just found a company that prints pennants etc (www.pennanthouse.com.au). There must be more around, one design print local?

[MalcolmP]

Excellent work Ian

Like Sitara says need to consider legibility from a distance. I do wonder if the code flags are necessary - the globe and star maybe says it all.

Mt experiences of printers and embroideriers is that they will need high res graphics files like .ai  I doubt if ppt will meet the need, so really want someone who can finish the final design off?

Malcolm

[ianpowolny]

Apr 24, 2016 23:39:36 GMT sitara said:

Looks great Ian, need to do a mock up and see what it looks like from a distance. The detail could vanish?

Just found a company that prints pennants etc (www.pennanthouse.com.au). There must be more around, one design print local?

If I hold it up can you see it? Ian

[ianpowolny]

Guys, Here's a couple of simplified images. They allow the globe/star to be much bigger. The pennant is based on 18" x 9".

Thoughts. My wife thought we needed a little more interest, hence the red line.

Once we have an agreement I'll see about a hi res version.

Ian 

[j24sailor]

I think Ian's wife's design with the red stripe is perfect. Could also be sold at rendez vous as well.

James

[captbillh]

In the USA, we have an organization Jeanneau Sailboat Owners. Most of the active members are in the Chesapeake Bay. 
Our logo is the red sided 8 point compass rose with blue "JSO" overlaid.

We are presently obtaining burgees in a swallowtail style. 
O' the top white half of the "north" point is lengthen to appear to be the main sail.

For the world wide organization my vote would be the compass rose over the simple globe. the images could be sewn to back to back to a single layer of cloth.

[svejk]

May 21, 2016 12:34:28 GMT captbillh said:

In the USA, we have an organization Jeanneau Sailboat Owners. Most of the active members are in the Chesapeake Bay. 
Our logo is the red sided 8 point compass rose with blue "JSO" overlaid.

We are presently obtaining burgees in a swallowtail style. 
O' the top white half of the "north" point is lengthen to appear to be the main sail.

For the world wide organization my vote would be the compass rose over the simple globe. the images could be sewn to back to back to a single layer of cloth.

Here's a shot of the burgee in action:

[MalcolmP]

The project for the worldwide pennant burgee is still progressing, albeit at a slower rate than I would have hoped. I am currently awaiting a confirmation from Jeanneau corporate team but am hopeful to have the final design ready for roll out in next few months. Thanks for your patience. Malcolm

[MartyB]

The JSO in US is really only based so far on the east coast. DISPITE there being some 30+ boats ea in Anacortes Wa and Poets Cove BC the third weekend in June for Roundezvous's in the Salish Sea area.

Then again, from my standpoint, the JSO clutters up the logo being over it. Just below logo would be cleaner IMHO.

I've actually done this for the 5 Jeanneaus in YC, have the compass logo on top, YC line below, and boat name below. Pretty clean on a shirt, coat etc.

Marty

[MalcolmP]

Well it has been a long time in the making, but the new logo has at last now been finalised ;-)  Many thanks to all those who helped in the design and selection phases. And to Ian of course for raising the idea in the first place. The design has also been approved by Jeanneau, which I think is really important.



It can be downloaded as a high resolution jpg file at: www.jeanneau-owners.com/photogallery.html  I also have the original ai and eps versions if anyone wants.

It should now be simple to individually have a pennant made up, or indeed the logo might be used for clothing, embroidery or even vinyl decals etc.

I will be away sailing quite a lot this summer ;-) but in the Autumn/Fall will have a look at options to have some pennants made up, although cost of shipping worldwide might be an issue. It was also suggested some badges/lapels might appeal?

Thanks to all Malcolm