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Post by Torsten on Jan 3, 2016 16:38:44 GMT
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Post by manrc on Mar 8, 2016 16:58:37 GMT
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Post by Torsten on Mar 8, 2016 18:33:46 GMT
Hi, im am interested in your installation. On my Tablet I can not see the pictures of your post. Best regards Hansi
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Post by On y va on Mar 10, 2016 14:09:03 GMT
Torsten : nice unit! I noticed you drilled the spaces in the teak wider than the actual holes for the bolts. What have you put in there? Just some sealant/sikaflex? or epoxy?
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Post by manrc on Mar 10, 2016 15:29:54 GMT
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Post by Torsten on Mar 10, 2016 16:02:37 GMT
Torsten : nice unit! I noticed you drilled the spaces in the teak wider than the actual holes for the bolts. What have you put in there? Just some sealant/sikaflex? or epoxy? I think this is very important in order to seal the bolts towards the hull. The platform is a sandwich contruction with some plywood between the inner and outer hull fibreglass. If the wood gets wet it will be probably a desaster after some years! I filled the space generously with Sikaflex. After the bolts set tight the Sikaflex will have squeezed everywhere and sealed the holes.
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Post by Torsten on Mar 10, 2016 16:04:09 GMT
Here you can find my installation into a 29.2. Just waiting to test it. Thanks manrc. The pictures in your last post are visible to me :-) I also cannot wait until I can test my installation!
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Post by manrc on Mar 13, 2016 19:05:22 GMT
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Post by On y va on Mar 13, 2016 21:38:38 GMT
manrc : nice video. What I see from the video is that it seems you are over powered on your main, seeing the sway in the wake and course. I initially had this issue as well with my hydrovane. Jeanneau´s are light, flat boats, so with a wind pilot, reefing the main is quite important. I know it will mean 0,5 of a knot less speed, but the windpilot is much more course stable that way. Have you compared the course keeping between autopilot and windpilot?
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Post by manrc on Mar 14, 2016 11:56:38 GMT
I'm agree. My boat tend to have wheather helm as soon as wind increases a bit.
In the video, I was sailing with first reef in the main and full Genoa (130). I think that the problem was with Genoa, I don't like rolling so I must change the headsail, but this is something tricky for me singlehandling.
Going downwind, you can see that at first the bow is looking for the wind, going from 130 twa to 90. The mainsheet was too tight, once I eased a little bit the boat recover the course.
In my channel in youtube you can check another video in the same place and conditions with the raymarine St 2000. It deal with wind and sea conditions signivative worst.
Regards Manuel
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Post by On y va on Mar 14, 2016 14:20:22 GMT
manrc : it just takes practise and time I suppose. I was fiddling and trying quite a bit in the beginning. In the end I asked Hydrovane and they came back to me about the reefing. And it made a huge difference. Swaying off course was now maybe 10 dgrs instead of ocassionally 30 to 40 dgrs. And although the hydrovane is quite a different windpilot with it´s own rudder blade, the principle is the same.
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Post by Torsten on Mar 14, 2016 16:51:31 GMT
manrc: Great video thanks! I still need to wait a bit, it seems to be a bit colder here in Germany than it is at your location ... probably need to wait until beginning of may I am interested to know how much the rudder blade of the Windpilot is in the water with no heel and how much it will get out of the water at approx. 30° heel. And how about the waves what will happen then to the rudder blade? Is the steering performance degrading at higher heels or is this more boat speed dependent? BTW: The pictures in your post disappeared ?
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Post by Torsten on Mar 28, 2016 7:11:47 GMT
manrc:
Did you play around with the height of the eye bolt on the Windpilot where you connect the lines to the tiller? Putting it higher means more movement of the Tiller but less force and vice versus. By default I think the height is set to the middle. I put the chain fix on the Tiller at approx. 60% of Tiller lenght, where did you put it to?
Because your boat is a similar size compared to my SO30i I might share from your experience in setting up the Windpilot properly.
Cheers Hansi
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Post by manrc on Sept 18, 2016 9:10:38 GMT
Hi hansi, i imagine youve tested te windpilot during this summer.
How does It command? Good experience?
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Post by iancymru on Sept 23, 2016 11:14:00 GMT
Thanks for sharing it looks a very neat installation, was wondering which model did you go for and also what is the small propellor used for in the initial photos.
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Post by Torsten on Sept 23, 2016 16:20:24 GMT
Thanks for sharing it looks a very neat installation, was wondering which model did you go for and also what is the small propellor used for in the initial photos. Hi Ian, the model is from the company "Windpilot" and the product name is "Pacific". The Website is "http://www.windpilot.com/". The small propeller is a Hydro generator called "SailingGen". So getting approx. 8Amps charging current for my 12V batteries @ 6kn of speed through water Has nothing to do with the Windpilot. See "http://sailnsea.myesell.com/index.php" And my post: "http://jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/4216/so30i-hydro-generator-installation" Best regards Hansi P.S. will share actual summer experiences of the Windpilot Pacific within the next days
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Post by Torsten on Sept 23, 2016 16:23:55 GMT
Hi hansi, i imagine youve tested te windpilot during this summer. How does It command? Good experience? Need to say a few more words about that in the next days.
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Post by iancymru on Sept 23, 2016 18:30:36 GMT
Thanks Hansi a very tidy set up, your ready for long trips now....
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Post by Torsten on Sept 24, 2016 7:19:28 GMT
Here you can find some videos of my Windpilot Pacific being active at SevenEleven ...
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Post by Torsten on Sept 24, 2016 7:37:34 GMT
It seems the Windpilot Pacific works according to the manufacturers expectations. It's still me needing to fully learn what is achievable "as thousands before" me.
So what I learned so far sailing in my configuration was:
- Winds below 10knots especially from aftwards causes much greater course uncertaincies (>20°) - Winds above 10knots work pretty well especially when sailing on a close reach and the conditions are stable (< 10°) - On each wind force change (also on stronger wind gusts) and/or the heel is changing I need to adjust the control chain to the tiller in order to achieve a good course stability according to the appearing/relative wind.
I am not unhappy with my Windpilot Pacific and it's installation but coming from an autopilot (here Raymarine ST1000+) you need to learn what is achievable and what isn't.
I have no comparison to other systems, so it may be still the best system which on the market.
Especially at low winds I will try to do some (for higher winds recoverable) modification to the system...
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Post by Torsten on Sept 29, 2016 19:35:45 GMT
Here're two more videos of last weekend Broad reach course:
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