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Post by reverie on Nov 29, 2015 22:57:07 GMT
Hello all, I have rope organizers on teak boards attached to the cockpit bulkhead on either side of the companionway. Please see the picture below:  For the past few seasons, these were attached to the boat using Velcro tape. But the glue on the tape always dries, and the tape separates from both the teak as well as the boat. So I need to find a better way to attach them. I'm debating either a) using 3M 5200 adhesive/sealant or b) drilling (gasp!) a couple of holes into the bulkhead and attaching the teak strips with stainless bolts/nuts. Does anyone have any thoughts on these options - or better ones? Many thanks, John Reverie - 2004 SO35 |
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Post by hoppy on Nov 29, 2015 23:06:23 GMT
The idea of holes used to terrify me, but less so now. My biggest issue was not being 100% certain that I will like what I'm fitting and if it's in the right place when I start using it. Given that you have a few seasons experience and are happy with it, I'd just bite the bullet and break out the drill & silkaflex  If it's been working with velcro then I'd just use 2 or 3 SS screws rather than nuts & bolts |
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Post by so36idavid on Nov 30, 2015 6:58:25 GMT
The idea of holes used to terrify me, but less so now. My biggest issue was not being 100% certain that I will like what I'm fitting and if it's in the right place when I start using it. Given that you have a few seasons experience and are happy with it, I'd just bite the bullet and break out the drill & silkaflex If it's been working with velcro then I'd just use 2 or 3 SS screws rather than nuts & bolts I prefer to avoid screws. If someone steps on it, or a line snags it on the way out through the clutch, or something else grabs the organizer, then the screws will rip out and make a mess. I generally use bolts if I can get the back of the bulkhead. I like to chamfer the hole with a countersink bit. This leaves a little space for a gasket to form around the bolt. Never had a problem with leaks. If you don't want to drill then you could epoxy the organizer directly to the bulkhead, just be sure to sand the gelcoat in a couple of spots so that the epoxy can adhere properly. Thicken the epoxy. |
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Post by hoppy on Nov 30, 2015 8:13:03 GMT
I prefer to avoid screws. If someone steps on it, or a line snags it on the way out through the clutch, or something else grabs the organizer, then the screws will rip out and make a mess. I generally use bolts if I can get the back of the bulkhead. I like to chamfer the hole with a countersink bit. This leaves a little space for a gasket to form around the bolt. Never had a problem with leaks. Good point on the screws If you don't want to drill then you could epoxy the organizer directly to the bulkhead, just be sure to sand the gelcoat in a couple of spots so that the epoxy can adhere properly. Thicken the epoxy. Epoxy sounds so nasty and makes the drilling sound like a less destructive way to install it if you ever decide to remove it one day |
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Post by Tafika II on Nov 30, 2015 15:26:48 GMT
We used the bungee style line holders on several boat, but this year we changed over to a new style made by Nite Ize. They are glorified twist ties. We installed a board in the anchor locker to start dock lines, which could be used on your teak boards. When we had the dodger re-canvased, we added inside hanger bars (sorry no picture) and use the looped Nite Ize loops pictured. West Marine in the US carries them.   |
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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 30, 2015 18:46:06 GMT
We used the bungee style line holders on several boat, but this year we changed over to a new style made by Nite Ize. They are glorified twist ties. We installed a board in the anchor locker to start dock lines, which could be used on your teak boards. When we had the dodger re-canvased, we added inside hanger bars (sorry no picture) and use the looped Nite Ize loops pictured. West Marine in the US carries them. Hi Brent - Looks really neat - however whilst off topic that photo of your Quick windlass remote looks like it might be on the verge of having the same problem that we have suffered with these in the past. the hook is in the wrong place so any water will try to get through that cable gland and then corrode the circuit board. I cleaned mine up and used a cable tie round the body to hang it the "right" way up IE so that the wire enters from the bottom, for a couople of seasons, but this year the unit totally failed and I replace with a better designed Lofrans hand controller - not a bad price from memory |
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Post by Tafika II on Nov 30, 2015 19:32:23 GMT
Hi Malcom!
I check the controller this week and invert it. What is the model of the Lofrans hand controller as I may just buy one as a backup? I'm looking into an mtra HRC1002L 2-Function Quick™ Handheld Remote Control with LED to see if it's compatible with the Quick Antares 10_15 Windlass.
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Post by kev on Nov 30, 2015 20:09:46 GMT
Hi,
My 36i cockpit is pretty wide (especially towards the aft end near the pedestal), and my kids were sliding across it when we were well heeled because their legs weren't long enough to reach the seat on the lee side. To help them I fixed a foot bracing bar down the centreline of my cockpit deck. I used black Sikaflex (I can't remember which type unfortunately, but the same as used to stick and caulk teak decking). The bar is made of teak and is about 2 foot long by 2 inches wide by 3/4 inch high so that it can be stood on without slipping off and twisting an ankle, and is stuck directly to the gelcoat deck. I did drill a matrix of partial holes (i.e not right through) in the underside of the teak to give a roughened finish for the Sikaflex to grip.
It has never shifted even with adult weight pushing, and I think if I ever want to take it off it will probably pull the gelcoat with it unless I carefully sand the teak away. On that basis, I think your rope holders could be stuck on successfully so that you avoid holes and just leaving you with gelcoat to polish up if you ever change your mind.
Kev
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Post by kev on Nov 30, 2015 20:19:45 GMT
Re the windlass controller, I reversed the hook and fixed it to the back of that GRP web on our 36i so that it wasn't getting a continual soaking. Also we store all our fenders in the anchor locker, and the wiring was getting a good bashing when pushing them in, so the other reason was to move it out of the way. Only downside with keeping the fenders here is that I'm on my knees on the foredeck with my backside in the air frantically heaving them out if we need to anchor quickly - must be comical when seen from afar!
Kev.
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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 30, 2015 23:46:21 GMT
Hi Malcom! I check the controller this week and invert it. What is the model of the Lofrans hand controller as I may just buy one as a backup? I'm looking into an mtra HRC1002L 2-Function Quick™ Handheld Remote Control with LED to see if it's compatible with the Quick Antares 10_15 Windlass. Hi Brent This was the one I have fitted: www.marinescene.co.uk/view/13114/lofrans-galaxy-102-handheld-control-quite simple, rather like the OEM Quick. Important to note that the manufacturers use different standard waterproof plug fittings on the bulkhead - If you have not already discovered the hand control can be removed by making a quarter turn on the plug at the opposite end of the cable, but in my case the Lofrans and the Quick were different - although the Lofrans does come complete with a fulls set of plugs, so not too big an issue to replace - but not in a hurry Malcolm |
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Post by Tafika II on Dec 1, 2015 0:28:11 GMT
Thanks Malcolm. I keep you posted. I like the Quick as it has a LED light built into the hand unit.
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Post by reverie on Dec 1, 2015 15:24:28 GMT
Many thanks for the suggestions on attaching the rope holders, guys. Great thoughts by all. I will have another look when I'm at the boat in a few weeks.
Cheers,
John
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Post by ianpowolny on Dec 2, 2015 16:27:19 GMT
Many thanks for the suggestions on attaching the rope holders, guys. Great thoughts by all. I will have another look when I'm at the boat in a few weeks. Cheers, John John, We didn't have any kind of stowage on Affinity until 2014 when we bought two bulkhead stowage bags in France. They are similar to the Blue Performance ones and have really tidied up the cockpit when we're not sailing. There held in place by two small screws with plastic clips. I think it was a 4mm hole and Sikaflex. They make good back rests and are easy to remove for cleaning the bulkhead. Ian |
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If it's been working with velcro then I'd just use 2 or 3 SS screws rather than nuts & bolts
