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Post by vasko on Dec 4, 2015 8:42:14 GMT
btw: I love every single thing about the design of the Sun Liberty - if I had the funds I would order same design just 40-45feet
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Post by vasko on Dec 4, 2015 13:27:08 GMT
hoppy ( or anyone else who is interested in ISO 9650 life raft) I will be happy to give a good deal on exchanging my Duarry KHY F-6 - Group A ( Pack B -hard ) ISO 9650 to a coastal life raft - my one is manufactured in 2011 and is just fully serviced - the certificate will be with date : 09.DEC.2015 ( I just paid 446GBP for the best proper service) - the servicing is done by: www.adecmarine.co.uk/ in London and the life raft is currently in London. Original price was 1840 GBP.
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Post by hoppy on Feb 17, 2016 12:47:37 GMT
Now that spring is nearing, and the boat will be getting wet again soon enough, I am back on to shopping for a LR. My thoughts are to get a 4 persons in a bag and make room in one of the cockpit locker for it. That will clear up the view across the deck and make sure I have space to mount a BBQ on the pushpit To minimise it's size and weight, I think I'll rely on a grab bag. I have not figured out which LR to get though. If I ever have more than 4 persons onboard, it will only be coastal or island hopping in the Med (still would like to dream Caribbean) and I hope it would not considered unreasonable or illegal to expect that if the worst would happen, there'd have to be some swimmers or that the dinghy will be used as a liferaft?
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Post by On y va on Feb 17, 2016 16:06:14 GMT
I got a 4p Zodiac Eversave in 2014. Light (24kg) and compact, but still for offshore purposes. It is NON ISO-9650, which to me is a load of bullshit. Just makes liferafts incredibly heavy and expensive with no real benefits for a better quality or better functionality. The essentials I have in grab bags. But at least I can lift this on my own and it sits in the port cockpit locker. www.svb24.com/en/zodiac-liferaft-eversafe.html
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Post by rxc on Feb 19, 2016 2:36:36 GMT
I have a Winslow 6-man raft, vacuum packed in a valise. It normally lives in a cockpit locker, but during my transatlantic crossing it was out on deck, living in the well aft of the wheel. No one did much steering during the trip - the autopilot did probably 99% of it, so there was no need to stand in the well. Better to get comfortable in the seat for the watches.
With the raft immediately available to launch. Of course, if we had actually needed it, it would have been useless, because the fabric would not hold air for more than about 30 minutes. This was discovered 2 years later, during the re-certification inspection in Paris. Winslow provided a replacement raft, at no extra charge, but they did not provide any apologies or any other explanation.
I really count on cutting the dinghy loose, if I should need someplace to float away. It has been continuously inflated for 16 years. Dinghy plus EPIRB plus grab bag of stuff. And the cats. They will be very unhappy.
I will tow the raft behind the dinghy.
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Post by On y va on Feb 19, 2016 8:13:42 GMT
I have a Winslow 6-man raft, vacuum packed in a valise. It normally lives in a cockpit locker, but during my transatlantic crossing it was out on deck, living in the well aft of the wheel. No one did much steering during the trip - the autopilot did probably 99% of it, so there was no need to stand in the well. Better to get comfortable in the seat for the watches. With the raft immediately available to launch. Of course, if we had actually needed it, it would have been useless, because the fabric would not hold air for more than about 30 minutes. This was discovered 2 years later, during the re-certification inspection in Paris. Winslow provided a replacement raft, at no extra charge, but they did not provide any apologies or any other explanation. I really count on cutting the dinghy loose, if I should need someplace to float away. It has been continuously inflated for 16 years. Dinghy plus EPIRB plus grab bag of stuff. And the cats. They will be very unhappy. I will tow the raft behind the dinghy. I agree with rxc to a certain degree. The problem with dinghies is that they are not very stable in a rough sea and tip over easily, nor do they provide any shade or rain protection. But, having both is certainly what one should attempt, including anything else with some form of floatation, i.e. fenders and or (empty) jerrycans.
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Post by hoppy on Feb 26, 2016 12:35:02 GMT
Just happened to be in a store that had a 4 person Lalizas liferaft inflated on display. It looked so small that I'd hate to be stuck in one with three others and worse if you are mid ocean and bring with you a well stocked grab bag and a few plastic water containers etc... then you just might not fit Ok, I'd also hate to ever need to see my or any other liferaft unless it's for a demo, inspection etc... On the topic of sizing, someone on another forum made a fairly good point. The safety issues with having too few people in the LR is more a problem in extreme weather conditions that we tend to not encounter unless we are sailing in the wrong place, wrong time. I'm starting to think I might get the SEAGO liferaft ISO 9650-1, probably 6 person <24h in a bag. At 35kg the weight is not too bad. Need to still get onboard to see that I can make the space in the locker for it. www.svb24.com/en/seago-liferaft-iso-9650-1.html
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Post by ianpowolny on Feb 26, 2016 18:31:52 GMT
Hoppy, it doesn't take much sea to make a life raft very uncomfortable if there aren't enough people in it. The Aberdeen survival school (RGIT) had a pool with a wave maker and some poor souls were sea sick in the pool. Ian
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Post by chuckr on Apr 2, 2016 8:18:55 GMT
Hoppy - we got a Zodiac and the soft case that fits in our rear cockpit locker and we can have it on deck in seconds -- hopefully we never have to see how fast we can get it into the water but it is should not take long.
We also agree with ZRC on the ARC -- we looked at it and said why do we want to pay all that money for just parties and a slips -- and then the you must go on this date and really you are on your own out there and the closest help may be a long way away if the nonsense hits the fan --
we have seen other group sails leave on long sails when we looked at the same weather and said no way are we leaving until that front passes and they got the crap kicked out of them - and some had to bail out --
we are bit independent and do our own thing
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Post by hoppy on Apr 29, 2016 10:28:24 GMT
Been dragging my feet on the LR purchase, bouncing between expensive but a light ISO and the "cheap" Eversafe.
Unfortunately Zodiac don't have the 6P eversafe in a bag available in good timing, but maybe I can get it in the hard case. Given that they are relatively light and compact, maybe it would be ok to keep it on it's side in a cockpit locker and it wont be too hard to lift out.
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Post by almasafety5 on Oct 3, 2017 11:50:52 GMT
Been dragging my feet on the LR purchase, bouncing between expensive but a light ISO and the "cheap" Eversafe. Unfortunately Zodiac don't have the 6P eversafe in a bag available in good timing, but maybe I can get it in the hard case. Given that they are relatively light and compact, maybe it would be ok to keep it on it's side in a cockpit locker and it wont be too hard to lift out. Hello everyone... We have a liferaft service station in Piraeus of Greece and we would like to give you a good offer for the annual inspection of your liferaft...whatever you need please contact us...
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Post by vasko on Oct 3, 2017 13:44:12 GMT
contact details please ?
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Post by almasafety5 on Oct 4, 2017 5:33:03 GMT
Good morning to all of you. AL-MA Safety Liferaft service station-fire fighting equipment 5 Pontou Street, 18648, Piraeus, Greece Tel: +30 2104634658 Web: www.almasafety.comEmail: alexandros_makris@hotmail.com Thank you all!
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