jim
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Post by jim on Nov 26, 2015 18:45:28 GMT
My 2014 SO439 has developed some hairline cracks in the gelcoat around the base of the shrouds. My gut feel is that these are not significant but local boat repairer says they should be ground out and filled asap due ot risk of water ingress - this involves slackening the shrouds right of, digging out the sealant so the stainless plate can be lifted up, grinding/filling cracks (maybe twice), and then replacing and tuning the rig. same for each side and will not be cheap. The dealer says it is just cosmetic stress related cracks, perfectly normal and will contact Jeanneau but doubt they will consider a warranty issue. Obviously both of these views have a vested interest, does anyone have any experience or a sought a dis-interested opinion as to which of these views is correct? Pleased to hear. Picture attached. .  |
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Post by vasko on Nov 26, 2015 22:37:57 GMT
looks cosmetic to me - if you try to repair most likley the visual effect will be alot worse...
in which country country is the boat ?
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Post by Trevor on Nov 27, 2015 11:01:01 GMT
Hi Jim,
I'm not qualified to say but if water ingress for hairline cracks was a problem, nearly every boat at the marina would need grinding and filling. My boat certainly has gelcoat stress fractures around the ends of the traveller and I am not concerned ( maybe I should be). I don't think that location has any structural job to do regarding the shrouds.
I think I would just use the boat, monitor the cracks and if they don't get much worse don't worry too much about it.
Keen to hear what others think though.
Regards,
Trevor
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Post by blade on Nov 27, 2015 12:10:08 GMT
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Post by jlasail on Nov 28, 2015 0:47:26 GMT
Hi Jim, I'm not qualified to say but if water ingress for hairline cracks was a problem, nearly every boat at the marina would need grinding and filling. My boat certainly has gelcoat stress fractures around the ends of the traveller and I am not concerned ( maybe I should be). I don't think that location has any structural job to do regarding the shrouds. I think I would just use the boat, monitor the cracks and if they don't get much worse don't worry too much about it. Keen to hear what others think though. Regards, Trevor FYI, I have a 2014 SO 409, purchased new. I also have several micro cracks on the deck (more than 20). I already brought it up in a previous thread. I am also told it is cosmetic in nature, and most likely comes from excess gelcoat in some areas. As it stands the dealer confirmed that it will be repaired under warranty. I have been told that it will be done soon, I will update this thread when it is all complete. |
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Post by jim on Nov 28, 2015 10:01:32 GMT
looks cosmetic to me - if you try to repair most likley the visual effect will be alot worse... in which country country is the boat ? |
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Post by jim on Nov 28, 2015 10:01:50 GMT
Thanks, the boat is in the UK.
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Post by jim on Nov 28, 2015 10:03:51 GMT
Thanks - be interested to know which dealer is handling the warranty claim - mine seems very blase about it all.
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Post by vasko on Nov 28, 2015 14:07:14 GMT
Thanks, the boat is in the UK. hmmm if it was in Greece I would say the yard is tricking you to do a non necessary job - as this is usual in Greece , but in UK .. may be worth talking with a surveyor.. |
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pgi409
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Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 409
Yacht Name: Ma Jolie
Home Port: Punta Gorda FL
Country: USA
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Post by pgi409 on Dec 16, 2015 2:01:10 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is a huge problem.
Should any of us be wanting to trade or sell a boat with this problem, we could expect to be penalized.
Jeanneau has a problem and should be accountable.
(as a disclaimer, I own a 6 month old 409 with similar gelcoat problems and I'm pissed!)
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Post by magicezycs on Dec 17, 2015 2:56:55 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 17, 2015 8:55:22 GMT
Magicezycs - that link to Bayliner will not show photos unless people are registered on that forum. Whilst we discourage commercial adverting on this forum, your product is very relevant to this thread, so I am sure we would be interested in seeing real before and after images and any techniques, such as pre-cleaning requirement. You can post images into this thread by following the guidance here: jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/631/adding-image-post-new-procedure |
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Post by magicezycs on Dec 17, 2015 23:20:37 GMT
Hi there, Please see before and after images taken from the Bayliner Owners Forum.  Image Source: www.baylinerownersclub.org/index.php/forum/general-boating-topics/55481-crazing-repair-before-and-afterHere are some tips in using MagicEzy Hairline Fix to get the best possible result: 1. Use a sewing needle or similar to scrape away any grime, wax or dirt out of the crack. 2. MagicEzy Hairline Fix is quite fluid, so shake the tube vigorously prior to opening for about 2 minutes to mix the color through for even consistency. 3. Do not use on very warm surfaces, as the product will become tacky before it has a chance to penetrate into the crack. If necessary use a damp cloth to cool the surface or apply early in the morning when temperature is cooler. 4. Some cracks are quite deep, so several applications may be necessary to completely fill the crack. Wait about 1 hour in between each application. Full application instructions and step by step video here: www.magicezy.com/products/hairline-fix/ |
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Post by Rumpus on Jan 4, 2016 16:06:58 GMT
Hi Jim,
We have a new 409 (April 2015) and are based in the UK. The commissioning manager warned us (before we got ownership) we would get some cosmetic hairline cracks in certain places on the boat due to the stiffness of the gelcoat used. As the rig tensions and the boat settles to a sailing aspect rather than sitting in a factory mould, there is some slight movement.
He said not to worry and when the boat was 10-12 months old, his grp chap would come along and do them under warranty.
When he was on the boat last time doing some other bits and pieces, he noted the ones we had so far and took pictures. Another, identical 409 in the marina (from the same broker) had hers sorted in spring 2015 (Just over year old) under warranty.
The chap uses a dremel to slightly open the crack to a v-shape (2-3mm across), fills with colour matched gelcoat and sands/polishes down. You cant see where he has been on the other boat, it matches so well.
Your picture looks just like the ones we have. |
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Post by jonnymo on Mar 30, 2017 18:57:45 GMT
Hi. Not sure what the outcome of this was, but my 33i had cracks in the deck. Rejected by warranty 3x, and dealer wouldn't do anything. Got a surveyor and have found massive problems. Majority part of side decks are failing on both sides. Now they are offering to fix (taking up 80% of side decks and relaminating as required ) then covering with a teak deck. Boat is 3 years old. Found the dealer and Jeanneau lacking in ownership. Thinking of rejecting boat if practical. Do wonder if there are problems with this prisma process
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