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Post by mikebz on Aug 4, 2015 16:08:36 GMT
So, how is this supposed to work then? Even if the wheel was removeable the pedestal would be in the way - this pic was taken with the helm hard over to port: Are you supposed to rig it facing aft and wrestle with it from the sugar scoop (helm central in this pic):
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Post by iocportobanos on Aug 8, 2015 5:55:32 GMT
Hi I don't think this is OEM : my emergency tiller when fitted just passes under the wheel and clears the binnacle. I have on my long list an action to figure out how I can modify to bring said emergency tiller up to " normal" height : I had in mind a modified shape to clear the transom flap .................. . . . . ......... . . . . I was off school the day the did drawing
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Post by iocportobanos on Aug 8, 2015 6:00:17 GMT
Looks like I was also off school they day they taught proboard: the text should say a modified question mark shape and the dots should show an outline So starting from the tiller handle it goes outboard above the transom flap, then curves to a vertical then curves in to a horizontal which re enters under the transom flap then curves to a vertical and fits into the rudder stock head
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Post by mikebz on Aug 10, 2015 17:47:52 GMT
Ok thanks. It must be pretty unusable if it's low enough to be underneath the wheel!
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Post by iocportobanos on Aug 14, 2015 14:36:27 GMT
My mistake sorry It functions through a section of the wheel spokess which makes sense when I look at your pics for the metal part only not ideal but...
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Post by mikebz on Aug 14, 2015 15:09:46 GMT
Ah, so maybe the metal bit I have is standard and the bit of wood was added by a previous owner who found that it was easier to steer with the tiller pointing backwards and a longer lever. Either way it doesn't look very useful.
The higher you make the tiller above the deck the more leverage you will be applying in the wrong plane when putting pressure on the tiller to steer.
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Post by aoifenauts on Oct 6, 2015 16:51:23 GMT
Mike,
I have experienced similar problems with my SO32, the lever on the emergency tiller is pathetically short to clear the wheel and binnacle. However, with an open cockpit aft and with a split backstay it could be reversed, extended and operated with 3:1 relieving tackles brought forward to winches. I have it nearly ready to try at sea.
Don
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everything
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Post by everything on May 17, 2016 12:24:16 GMT
Hi Everyone.. I'm a very new SO32i owner and currently familiarising myself with her. Very happy to find this site! Two questions I'd really love some help with... how do you insert and connect the emergency tiller? Sounds like a dumb question but I cannot see how the bolt in the fitting can fit out of the small gap and allow the emergency post to slot in and be secured with a kotter pin? My emergency tiller looks the same as the others here however I have a wooden platform across the stern and over the top of the emergency tiller housing. Great for me being a shortish person.. but not looking so useful in an emergency.. (can't work out how to load photos on this site.. ) Second question - do many of you open up the binnacle to check the wheel cables and system for corrosion etc? Any tips? I've always had tiller yachts so this wheel thing is all new to me .. many thanks in advance.
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Post by so32foot on May 17, 2016 17:42:48 GMT
On my SO32 from 2004 I've same situation. I guess that the European law is that there must be an emergency tiller on the boat. but it might not saying that it should also work and be useful. so the wharf has choosen the cheapest solution.
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Post by Don Reaves on May 17, 2016 20:03:19 GMT
Hi everything, Here's a link to your picture.
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Post by everything on May 18, 2016 4:19:28 GMT
Thanks for the link So thinking about it, in a emergency I need to rip out the wooden platform to get to the tiller.. I think this weekend will be spent making the access hole a lot bigger..
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Post by rene460 on May 18, 2016 10:59:10 GMT
Hi everything,
My SO 30i looks a little different to your picture and I wonder if yours has been modified by the previous owner as I thought the boats were similar. Earlier posts on this thread indicate that this may not be unusual.
The removable part on our boat is a vertical tube with a cross handle on the top and a slot at the bottom that fits over a cross rod on the part below deck. Thus easy to fit when the deck inspection plate is removed. But you prompt me to think about whether will it stay in place under the conditions it might be used as there is no sign of any cotter pin. The other points in earlier posts also apply, the top bar is short to avoid the wheel but I have to admit not trying it to actually steer while sailing.
May I suggest that before you rip out your useful platform, you figure out exactly how it works and if you have the right bits. It is worth going into the back compartment by removing the cover in the aft cabin to see the underside. I cannot imagine trying to remove those nuts and insert the cotter pin under the conditions you might need it.
Regarding your other questions, I do not regularly check the steering cables, though I might if I was going off shore. I have removed the cover in the aft cabin for another issue and noted they looked good. Also saw the top end when replacing some instruments and that end was also good so I do not have particular worries. Worth doing once before your life depends on it especially if the boat is not new, then judge if you need to look more often. Opening the binnacle is not a problem, undo the 3 screws underneath and the whole top lifts. It will be still attached by your instrument wiring so have a helper ready to squirt some of your favourite corrosion resistant compound onto the chain if it appears to be lacking lubricant. Some one may reply with a better suggestion of what to use.
And you have reminded me to check that my emergency tiller actually works!
rene460
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Post by everything on May 18, 2016 11:46:09 GMT
Thanks - I'll try that this weekend. I think the platform modification has been made over the usually removable piece that would insert for the tiller extension (if I understand correctly) and so my double worry is all the crap that has been building up there! Does anyone have photos of what the fitting area looks like under normal circumstances? My desire to sort this out comes from crewing on a racing yacht years ago and having the wheel fail and no one knew what to do... Not a pleasant experience under kite.. !
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Post by rene460 on May 18, 2016 12:04:10 GMT
Hi everything,
We have no timber, and the deck has a 150mm screw in inspection hatch, similar to the plastic ones on dingy's, but metal. Some forum members have previously complained that they had the plastic ones but they broke, perhaps sunlight helped but basically not meant to be stood on, right behind the wheel!!! Probably explains why metal was the standard when ours was built. I hope you have a wooden cover for the hole in the wood, but you probably need the one at deck level as well to avoid the rubbishy accumulating. If the original is lost, I assume plastic would be fine under the timber. They get a bit tight so you need something suitable to help remove them when needed.
Unfortunately cannot photograph for a while so I hope someone else will jump in on that one.
rene460
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Post by everything on May 1, 2017 13:01:34 GMT
Hi everyone
Well I sorted that weird emergency tiller situation I had by filing a 'key' into the base of the tiller so it slots straight over the bolt that is in the wooden floor - so I do have a plan B if anything happened, although it will required holding it into place, we tested it and it works ok.
After weeks of really nice cruising and sailing, I figure next weekend is a maintenance weekend and I'd like to have a look at the cables etc inside the pedestal and the steering system. My boat is 2009, so probably due for this and the Survey made no mention of the cable and chain condition (crap survey on reflection).
Any advance advice on where the inspection points are, preferred lubricants and tips for the general inspection (and photos of yours if you have them!) would be very welcome.
Thanks!
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Post by sailingvissers on Jun 10, 2020 9:31:18 GMT
Hello, I'm new on this forum and have another question regarding the emergency tiller on a SO32. I figured, I'd best post it in this tread, but maybe I'm wrong. I am in the process of buying a '05 SO 32. The surveyor noticed that the round "deckplate" underneath the emergency tiller's connection-collar get's moved by this collar when steering all the way to the end. THis, due to the pin that is welded to the collar that moves in a slot on the deckplate (at the end the pin pushes the deckplate with it a little. I would assume that this deckplate should be fixed with screws to the deck (the screws are still there). There is a lot of (silicone) sealant applied over the deckplate and the gap with the teak, but it doesn't prevent the plate from moving.. Is this a common issue with this construction? can it do any harm? (I guess water could leak through it). can it easily be dismantled and fixed? Sorry for the blurry picture but if you look closely you can see what I mean. the large grey ring is sealant. Attachment Deleted
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Post by mikebz on Jun 10, 2020 10:11:35 GMT
I had to tighten up the bolts which hold it to the deck on ours - you can access them by removing the shelving unit at the rear of the aft cabin (ours has the full-width single aft cabin, the shelving unit is on the port side - remove it and you can get your head OR one of your arms into the void at the stern of the boat).
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Post by sailingvissers on Jun 10, 2020 15:00:36 GMT
Thanx, that does not sound too complicated.
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