pio
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Post by pio on Jan 4, 2015 18:02:30 GMT
In 2015 I want to sail for a period of 5 months to the Swedish East Coast. It will be my 3rd time to go there. So far I used the Batsportkort from Sjofartsverket and a CM93 map on OpenCPN on my laptop. I also use the pilots Skanor - Landsort and Landsort - Arholma. I prefer to use natural harbours as much as possible. However, in summer period the popular natural harbours in the pilots are often crowded. So I want to find natural harbours beyond these pilots, but my maps are not detailed enough. I noticed that there are more detailed maps from Hydrographica, but to have all of them for the east coast will be a bit expensive.
I found Seapilot as a suitable app for Android and their maps for Sweden should include the detailed maps from Hydrographica.
So I am very interested if any member has experience with these maps and Seapilot. Unfortunetaly I cannot find a free trial for Seapilot.
Or are there better maps available (more detailed)
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Post by hoppy on Jan 4, 2015 18:21:02 GMT
Try Navionics. I have the iOS version and have been happy with it. I had a boat in Stockholm before the days of phone/tablet nav apps, so I never got to try it here. Whilst I don't think you can trail the app, they have all of their map base online, so you can see exactly the level of detail you will get with the app. webapp.navionics.com/?lang=en
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Post by sailbleu on Jan 5, 2015 6:28:03 GMT
Have a look at this : www.inavx.com/I use these and I'm very pleased with it. In combo with an ipad 3 AND wifi-multiplexer - connected to AIS and GPS receiver - it gives me all the info I need . Position , AIS traffic , and with seatalk to the mux (wifi multiplexer) together with an app I have all the instruments data on my ipad . The wifi even allows me to command the autopilot using the ipad The wonders of technological progress. Simultaneously I have C-map NT+ for my chartplotter(s) and as a final backup a laptop with CM93 >>>OpenCpn. But definitely check out inavx They are fabo !! And the good thing about inavx is , I recently bought an extra ipad air 2 ( 4G you know ) and downloaded the maps with icloud to my new ipad. If you have relatives, family or dear friends you can really trust , you can even subscribe them into your account (only apple though) and give them the charts for free. Inavx does allow 2 tablets/smartphones to share the charts , but apple has the icloud with unlimited sharing . But who do you give your apple-store paswords right I do have a love-hate relationship with apple though , in my view they sneakely monopolize their field of expertise and they refuse to install a USB port. Be it not for my son who's a bit of a wizkid ( well, not really kid anymore and 1m94 tall ) on the IOS matter I would renounce apple all the way and choose Samsung . Just an opinion. Regards
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Post by pio on Jan 5, 2015 10:45:11 GMT
Below I made a comparison of several maps of the island Ytteron, east of Karlskrona. You can see that both, Navionics and CM 93 are not detailed at this location. At other places , e.g. the Stockholm archipelago, Navionics seems to be more detailed then CM93. But despite I wonder if more detailed maps will be avaible (for Android) zeekaart Ytteron.docx (243.75 KB)
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Post by vasko on Jan 6, 2015 20:35:32 GMT
Have you try Garmin latest charts ? I found them to be better them cmap & navionics for the Med ..
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Post by pio on Jan 9, 2015 13:27:27 GMT
The Garmin Blue charts are not available for Android. The detailed charts of Hydrographica are not available yet for Seapilot in an Android application. Seapilot says may be before summer 2015!! Ivavx is only for Ipad or Iphone.
What remains is Navionics or C-map (Plan2Nav). From Hydrographica I got the message that Navionics and C-map are using their data. Navionics seems to be much cheaper than Plan2Nav, so Navionics might be the best option for me.
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Post by iancymru on Jan 9, 2015 15:38:04 GMT
I know the thread started off with android but I use an iPad with isailor from Transas who supply the commercial ships it a fantastic plotter and the charts stored to the hard drive they are also stored in the cloud and can be down loaded, the app is free but you have to pay for the chart folios for my area Irish sea/ Bristol Channel was about £20, it can be down loaded to other iOS equip mine is also on my phone and iPod so gets used all the time I even used it in Antigua when sailing out there after down loading the charts and if you connect via a hdmi plug to your tv you get a 22inch plotter (how much would one of those cost.) Transas have been under a lot of pressure to produce isailor for android and are apparently doing so this year. Ian
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Post by johannes on Nov 27, 2018 15:25:55 GMT
New to the forum and I realise this is an old thread, but there is some new information to the subject. We bought a Sun Odyssey 37 (2000) in Stockholm this summer and sailed her down to the Öresund area along the Swedish coast during a week with tropical heat. This is the sailing ground where I grew up and I have sailed the coast countless times in different boats.
As far as I know all commercial charts for Sweden use the same chart data, provided by Sjöfartsverket (Swedish Maritime Adminstration), with the exception of the Hydrographica charts which have been privately mapped. The Hydrographica charts should be available for Garmin, Navionics and C-map.
The pilots Skanör - Landsort and Landsort - Arholma have many high detail maps for harbours and natural moorings.
There is a free alternative for iOS and Android: the app Eniro på Sjön (a paid premium version has some more features). Although they advise against it, it is possible to navigate with the app. It is very useful as an alternative to having paper charts in the cockpit for giving an overview and for route planning, and as backup.
I was too cheap to buy paper charts for the entire coast this summer, so we sailed with 2012 charts in the Garmin plotter that came with the boat, plus the Eniro app, plus the pilot. But then I know these waters well. The Garmin plotter (GPSmap 5012) is unbearably slow when zooming and panning, so having a smartphone option for route planning is indispensable. Given the hundreds of thousands of islands, islets and rocks along this coast, you need to zoom in and out all the time.
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