Internal woodwork

[Seagem]

I have some minor damage to a cupboard door and drawer front in the galley area of my 2007 SO 42i.

Does anyone know what they are made off and where in the UK I can buy the material to make new ones? I believe they are 15mm thick plywood but I am not sure if they are faced on both sides with teak veneer or some other product to look like teak. The surfaces of all the internal woodwork such as bulkheads and cupboard doors are very smooth and without any texture so I suspect it is a man made material on the face of a plywood core.

Any suggestions welcome.

Regards

Andy

[Full Circle]

I commissioned a new saloon table for my SO35 from marine cabinet makers in Essex. They bought fresh marine ply and veneer to match, but increased the thickness to have a harder wear life, and then the French Polishing company bleached and blended the satin finish to make the sun fading on the bulkhead, as the boat was 6 years old. Perfect job.

[Deleted]

I had to replace several internal door s on my 45DS and was able to order the exact replacement directly fro Jeanneau just by giving them my hull number.

[dralyagmas]

Some of my doors are starting to look a bit shabby. Is there a particular varnish that is recommended to use for doors, cupboards and even floor boards?

[Seagem]

Sigma Sigmavar S2U is the one to use apparently.

There is a previous post on the subject. It's a satin finish. You will probably have to google it to find a supplier.

On the subject of the material used for the panels, I have discovered that Jeanneau have trade marked the product in conjunction with an Italian company called Alpi. They call it Fine Teak and it is a plywood core faced with a melamine type material to look like teak. They did it because it is easier to match all the panels than using real teak vaneer, better off for environment and oh, cheaper! I have tried to find a supplier for this but with no luck. I suspect Jeanneau keep it for the own use only.

In desperation, I have emailed a Jeanneau dealer in the UK asking if they can supply a replacement cupboard door. I have not yet had a reply.

[Anwen (Deep Joy)]

Just to add to this a bit. Alpi wood veneer is wood. The Fine Teak is made from Ayous, a hardwood from Africa. Alpi take the logs and cut them into veneer. The veneer sheets are then dyed in tanks and glued together to make an oblong log. The log is then sliced lengthways to create sheets of what looks like teak veneer that is then applied to the plywood.

This video from Alpi explains this, and the website here has more information on the types of wood that are available.

The early boats that used Fine Teak seem to have a different varnish from the more recent boats, creating a surface that looks like plastic laminate. The more recent boats look like they use a more traditional varnish, and there is more texture to the finished surface.

When I bought Anwen, I asked the dealer to see if he could get some additional pieces of Fine Teak plywood from the factory, but they refused. I wanted them to make small accessories like book racks and a table lamp for the boat. I was told that the only way to get some more wood was to order a spare door or panel for the boat, at Jeanneau spares prices! I also looked into sourcing some material from Alpi, but they are a manufacturer, and tend to sell direct to other manufacturers. Jon Clarke from Network Swansea did find a UK timber wholesaler who are Alpi agents, but the order quantities were way too much for a few boat accessories!

[no3l]

Hi

If anyone finds a source for the Sigma Sigmavar S2U I would really appreciate it if they would post the source.

I am in the process of replacing some of the internal woodwork on my SO36i and want to ensure a good match for the finish.

Thanks in advance
Noel

[deepblue]

Hi,

It is Sigma Sigmavar 2SU. I am in the Netherlands, so got the stuff close to home from an outfit that also has a webshop www.verfcompleet.nl

The bulkheads of the heads lose their varnish due to the showerwater, I think. Just make sure you de-grease the bulkhead and paint using a small roller and a small brush. Looks real good, except the thicker layer makes it more glossy in certain types of light. Done the whole inside of the head so it does not matter but when you repair patches, try to thin it down a bit.

Best of luck

[no3l]

Hi,

Perfect, thanks for the feedback and advice.

Noel

[alenka]

Sept 18, 2014 21:20:38 GMT Full Circle said:

I commissioned a new saloon table for my SO35 from marine cabinet makers in Essex. They bought fresh marine ply and veneer to match, but increased the thickness to have a harder wear life, and then the French Polishing company bleached and blended the satin finish to make the sun fading on the bulkhead, as the boat was 6 years old. Perfect job.

Any chance you might share the contact details for the cabinet maker?

[Deleted]

The Sigma Var is used on the original teak interior. I am not sure if Jeanneau uses this also to touch up the fake Alpi fineer. How can someone say it's wood???

[tonyrice]

I have a 2002 Sun Odyssey 32. I have some sun damage to the internal woodwork. The wood is not varnished but appears to have some form of lacquer finish which paint stripper does not touch. Does anyone know what it is and what is the best way of removing it?

regards
 Tony

[Deleted]

Sanding will probably be the best. But be carefull not to go to deep through the fineer.

[dbostrom]

Not sure if it's any help, but two years ago before cutting a hole in a critically exposed area of our 39i I inquired of the dealer about obtaining a sheet of the Alpi material. In my case, no refusal but a breathtaking expense in the event it should become necessary. About $US 400 for a sheet, $600 or so for handling and shipping. A little fuzzy on those numbers at this point...

There's little depth for sanding on this material. I've found that surface dings and mild scratches can be made to pretty much vanish by wiping on some Daly's "Seafin" teak oil with a rag, wiping off immediately. The physical shape of the scratch remains but it fades into the background thanks to the blending effect of the Seafin. Some fairly serious battering at the thresholds of the cabins was made to disappear in this way, now requiring neurotic on-hands-and-knees level of inspection to be found. 

[Deleted]

The SO32 from 2002 is equipped with teak fineer woodwork. Not the artificial Alpi material.

[tonyrice]

Thank you both for your comments. I am sure it is teak veneer as described by Marien. Have tried sanding and paint stripper but concerned at going through the veneer. It has been suggested trying Thinners to remove the lacquer.  Will report back!