about to own a Jeanneau 36.2

[sandygr]

Hello to all,

we are about to purchace a Jeanneau 36.2,  now it is charted and everything seems to be carefully taken care of the current owner.
Do you have any recommendations? any thoughts? something that i need to check and pay more attention on the boat?
Is it a good model? i just cant find much on the internet, neither videos, reviews etc.

Thank you

[sitara]

Hi sandygr,
And welcome to the forum.

I sailed for a couple of years on a mates Sunfast 36.2 (performance version of the SO series), great boat with excellent sailing properties and very comfortable for cruising. In its youth it participated in a couple of Sydney Hobart races which says a lot for the boat.

Get all the through hull fittings, sea cocks and hose tails checked, we had a hose tail collapse on the sink outlet while on a trip which could have been disastrous.

[sandygr]

Hello Sitara, 

nice to meet you too. I forgot to mention that its a Sun Odyssey 36.2. I guess the Sunfast must be more race oriented boat.

This will be our first boat and we are very excited and anxious, if its good, if there are points of consideration, regarding the equipment, the performance etc. I think it seems not to have been massively produced as i read that 300 boats were produced of this model, which i think they are not much.
We were planning also to take part to races occasionaly, how would you think it would perform? In general we love this boat, its in our price range and it has everything we need on equipment and size. Also the only thing of consideration  with the mast, i will upload a photo on a next post 

[sandygr]

I cant still upload the photo of the mast, but at the bottom, about 1m from the deck, has 2 holes about 1cm wide X 8cm height, like there was something there attached (spinnaker pole?) and it has been ripped out violently and left the holes, i need to show you the picture. this is a concern if  the mast is reliable.

Also i attach a picture of the galley placement, i have find maybe one more SO 36.2, with this arrangement, do you know if some models can be modified upon request of the client, because the normal arrangement is a corner galley in the entrance.
See a picture of the interior


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[Trevor]

Hello sandygr,

What an exciting time!! This is a really great but you need to realise you are now at your most vulnerable. This is when you are willing to overlook any blemishes (or serious problems) because you have fallen in love with this boat and cannot wait to make it your own. Almost all members of this forum suffer this terrible ailment when looking at replacement boats!!

Please get a surveyor to give you a full report on the state of the boat and then consider all issues the surveyor finds. The surveyor will be able to give you an opinion on the mast. The surveyor will provide you with a comprehensive report on the electronics, seacocks, engine, hull osmosis, rigging, rudder bearing, propellor shaft, cutlass bearing, bilge pump, galley equipment, keel bolts etc.

The cost of the surveyor is well worth it. By the way, I know exactly what it feels like to have your current ailment, and I suffer hopelessly with it. It is wonderfully exciting but I have always known I am living through a terribly dangerous time for my long term wealth!

Good luck at dealing with this and please enjoy this most exciting time.

Regards,

Trevor

[sandygr]

Trevor thank you so much for your encouragement! This is really how it looks like in our position. It is a desperate will to have it but also put the logic and all the financial issues on the table.

I managed to find the photo of the holes on the mast. I know a profesional will be the more adequate to evaluate it, but also your opinion and experience is very appreciate it. I attach the image of the mast "problem"



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[hoppy]

The mast looks nasty, but I have no idea if it is a problem, but I'll guess not.

I just checked Jeanneau's site for the interior layout and what you show is not a normal layout. I am guessing it is a special layout for charter companies to order as for some reason that layout has been popular for charter. Is the boat a Sunsail, Moorings or perhaps some other larger charter company boat?

You can find the manual (in French)
anciensbateaux.jeanneau.fr/2007/?r=yacht&p=boat&n=20&nl=2

[sandygr]

Yes the mast doesn't look very good, I don't have another picture, but it seems like something was screwed there before and it has been removed along with a small part of the mast
The current owner told us that he bought the boat like this 5 years ago and he didn't experience any problem when sailing... I don't really know what to say about this, too be honest it worries me a bit but I believe it is not something major. 
I didn't know that big charting companies can modify a model... I'm totally OK with the layout, it just seemed weird that I just saw one more boat on the Internet with this layout... I'm can't guess something suspicious other it can be an owners version or a special order. We are about to put a great amount of money on purchasing the boat, and I hope none of these are something major. 

The way or looks the damage on the mast, you thing that it could be repaired by rebuilding this hole, or it would need the mast to be replaced? My first priority is a safety but I wouldn't like to spend money that they could be prevented 

Does anyone has a personal experience on this boat? 

[patryk221]

Nothing to worry about, this is what happens when you use the wrong screws or the wrong metal type (bracket) on aluminium which reacts hence it being ripped out leaving these holes, I would just clean it, treat it with grease and live with it, plus its  not where the mast experience pressure from bending....

[sandygr]

Thank u so much for this information, really reliefing! Makes us more confident for this boat, cause we really like it! 

[sitara]

Hi sandygr,
As Trevor said it is very important to get a marine surveyor to go over the boat. If he finds major faults with the boat these can be a negotiating point for adjustment of the price you pay. Also you will probably need a surveyors report for insurance purposes - it will also give you great peace of mind!

The galley placement is strange - this looks very similar to the interior layout of the SO34.2. One drawback with this arrangement is that water could flood in through the sink seacock when sailing if the seacock is left open. Just a thought - double check that the boat is a 36 and not a 34.2. There may be a builders plat in the cockpit giving these details. These is not much difference in size.

[Trevor]

As patryk221 says, this is a classic case of dissimilar metal corrosion. A bracket has been attached that has caused the dissimilar metals to corrode. Usually some compound is put between these dissimilar metals to reduce this effect but I would say they have simply been clamped together.

I cannot stress enough the need for a surveyor to give you a report. The vessel needs to be lifted out of the water and the surveyor will go over all important aspects of the boat. If you can be there during the inspection you will learn a lot from that experience.

Have fun,

Trevor

[patryk221]

Yes get a Survey, but dont be put off by it, they always find things wrong, unless its major structual damage which will sink the boat walk away, I bought my SO29.2 without a Survay but thats because I can do things that most people pay for by my self done a lot of work on my boat as it wasnt in the best condition but having now knowing the boat inside out, I would do it again... a Survey to me is a piece of document that will allow you to get discount on the boat, as there will always be issue, sometimes even issues are mentioned that will never cause any issues..... just something to think about.,...

[patryk221]

One Suggestion I have let the seller of the boat get someone to put allum welds in the damaged area before you hand your money over

[Deleted]

Check engine hours and examin the full service report of the engine. A big amount of hours won't have to be a problem as long as the engine is well maintained. Furthermore instruct the surveyor to do a moisture measurement of the laminate. Not only the hull but the deck sections as well. This could reveal old or existing leakages of deckfittings.
Ask for the history of the anti fouling and intervals ashore.

[sandygr]

Me ans my husband we are very handy people , we do everything on our own, especially my husband is fixing everything and I mean everything on his own. We are both engineers and in general we don't like people do things that we can do on our own. By now we have seen many boats from total wrecks to medium condition boats in order to get the best we could on the price range, so we also made lots of research for repairs. This boat happens to be in generally good condition, working condition and just minor things bother us, such the mast.
I think we will repair the mast just because it isnt look good, we want our boat perfect
We are so excited, that we can't wait, I guess everyone would be like this with their first boat, and it happens to be a much better and newer boat than anything else we could afford until now!
Only thing remains mystery is the galley, I think I will send an email to Jeanneau, to ask about it, but I think it must be an ex charter boat like it has been proposed.
Thank you so much all, I will be in contact and inform you how did it go! Next thread will be how to repair the mast corrosion thing

[ray68]

Hi Sandygr
 
My wife and I also own a 36.2 S.O. that we keep in Spain. The Kitchen Layout is the same as in the picture. Our boat has always been owned privately.
I have an original owners manual that describes the 3 standard layouts that were available from Jeanneau. This was one of them.
Very pretty internal timber work. Great boat. Enjoy.

Ray

[sandygr]

That is amazing news! We loved this boat too from first sight its kinda a relief that it is not for sure a charter boat in a big charter company as they probably wouldn't take care of the boat so carefully.
It's it possible to have a copy of the owners manual too?
When I was searching online all the manuals for 36.2 are illustrating just the corner galley.
Which year's is yours? This is from 1996. So first ones to be produced.

[tedp]

Last year we sailed a 36.2 in Turkey (see this thread). That boat had two stern cabins and the galley placed along the port side just like the one you are planning to buy. The boat we rented was a little worn and the interior looked very much used. However, it sailed very well and was easy to handle even in rough conditions.

The mast damage probably looks worse than it is - since it is at the bottom end there will be little stress at that point, so I expect it will be all right. But I think it must be repaired before you buy the boat.

I hope that survey of yours will turn out all right. Good luck!

Ted

[sandygr]

Thank you Ted for all the information. We will be chartering also the boat so maybe you will have again the opportunity to charter in in Greece