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Post by Quiddle on May 8, 2014 7:03:40 GMT
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Post by kev on May 11, 2014 21:07:15 GMT
Hi,
I have the same boat/charger combo from 2007, and like you did a double take when I saw the settings. I'm sure you have realised by now that the Cristec manual is wrong. There seems to have been an editing error when they wrote the English version and used "cut and paste" to copy the right hand table columns into the sw5 and sw4 columns. If you look in the French version a few pages before, you will find what I think is the correct table entry. The switch settings you photographed are the same as mine, which correspond to the Type 2 battery settings (from SW5 downwards...off, off, on, off, on).
I'm sure you know this anyway (as you're still with us!), but for anybody else who looks inside the charger, make sure you isolate from the mains supply when you remove the cover as there are exposed mains voltages on the circuit board. I found out the hard way only a couple of weeks ago whilst investigating why the fan in my unit wasn't working. I'm a qualified electronics engineer and should know better, but I managed to bridge a resistor leg to earth which dissapeared with a flash. Strangely, the design is such that there would also seem to be a risk that anything conductive which accidently gets into the unit through the cooling vents could too easily have the same effect, although it would seem to be safe enough against human contact as long as the case is on. Fortunately I was saved from an expensive mistake by a fast tripping MCB and ELCB, and the resistor was easily replaced.
Hope this helps. Regards
Kev
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Post by nornaj on May 12, 2014 16:27:21 GMT
Hi, Guys
Had the same issue, took me a while to work out that I was looking at a pasting error in the manual.
Andy, before you upgrade your batteries make sure that the Cristec can deliver the voltages recommended by the battery manufacturer and for the necessary length of time.
When we upgraded we found (after the fact) that those pre-set programs that supplied a high enough bulk (boost) voltage provided a too high float charge. In addition, the maximum bulk + absorption time for the Cristec is four hours. If your new battery bank has too many amp hours, then the Cristec will switch to float too early and it will take days/weeks to get a full charge, if ever.
Hope this helps.
NornaJ
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Post by Quiddle on May 13, 2014 19:26:07 GMT
Thank you both for putting my mind at rest, at least as far as my current position. Unfortunately I lacked the wherewithal to consider looking elsewhere in the manual for confirmation  I was looking at upping to a 200Ah hour bank so will make certain that the charger will cope. If not I will stay with what I have which is working OK at the moment with a 100W solar panel. Thanks again. Andy |
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Post by Mistroma on May 13, 2014 20:33:10 GMT
Thank you both for putting my mind at rest, at least as far as my current position. Unfortunately I lacked the wherewithal to consider looking elsewhere in the manual for confirmation I was looking at upping to a 200Ah hour bank so will make certain that the charger will cope. If not I will stay with what I have which is working OK at the moment with a 100W solar panel. Thanks again. Andy Yes, it isn't very configurable. Trojan state 14.8V for daily charge regime and 13.3V for float on T-105s. Most of last year was spent at anchor with odd recharge via a generator and base power from solar & wind. I can adjust boost to 14.8V using the Pot. on the base but float is then 14.1V. In fact, difference between boost & float Voltages always seems to be around 0.7V for all battery types whatever adjustments are made. It isn't a huge problem at anchor as I don't run the generator long enough the get past the boost phase. Solar & wind have their own regulator and that can be adjusted easily. I reduce the Voltage to around 14.1V / 13.4V if staying in a marina for an extended period. It is a bit of a nuisance but seems to be workable until I get around to replacing the charger. Would be nice if anyone has found a method of tweaking this charger to alter the difference between boost & float Voltages. |
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Post by ForGrinsToo on May 20, 2014 14:36:38 GMT
I'm looking to upgrade my original 70Ah batteries and have looked at the settings on the charger: Does anyone with the same charger know if their switch positions are the same as mine, or can anyone explain the switch settings table? Thanks Andy Hi Andy, I'm just confirming that my Cristec charger settings are the same (lead-acid, wet cell), as set by the (highly regarded) Jeanneau dealer on our 36i. Wish I'd thought to print the French section of the manual. Geoff Read more: jeanneau.proboards.com/post/16229/quote/3156#ixzz32GablKml |
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Post by Quiddle on May 22, 2014 19:25:46 GMT
Thanks Geoff, that's reassuring.
Andy
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Jun 3, 2014 23:16:05 GMT
I'll also note that I just replaced the two 70 Ah batteries with two Lifeline GPL-4CT AGM which are 6V and 220 Ah, so I have doubled my capacity. Next up, to replace the Cristec with a Xantrex (for reasons already noted) and to add a 100 W solar panel.
Problem: the Lifeline batteries are about 8 mm taller than the battery box. (Yeah, I measured more than twice). Not sure, yet, how I will resolve the problem. The aft cabin is little used.
Geoff
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Post by mikebz on Jun 4, 2014 18:09:51 GMT
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Post by so36idavid on Jun 4, 2014 20:24:19 GMT
Problem: the Lifeline batteries are about 8 mm taller than the battery box. (Yeah, I measured more than twice). Not sure, yet, how I will resolve the problem. The aft cabin is little used. I had the same problem. I ordered a pair of Trojan 30XHS but when they arrived they were of a different spec than the online data sheets, a little too tall. Why Trojan would change the size of a battery is a mystery. The distributor returned them and gave me credit for a pair of Trojan T31 AGMs which fit quite nicely. I had to move the starting battery to the port side, under the garage, and run a bunch of wiring to tie it in. While I was at it I installed a Victron battery monitor which I really like. |
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Jun 5, 2014 22:16:19 GMT
For the Lifeline CPL 4CT, the problem is the extra height of the attachments for the two lifting handles. That's not shown, I see now, on the data sheet. But now I have 200 Ah instead of 140 Ah.
I do not want to modify the battery box, which leaves either shims on the lattice or cutout of the cover - or maybe a cutaway of the handle attach points. It's not urgent.
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Post by stevenb on Nov 18, 2014 15:21:25 GMT
Any clues as to where the charger might be located on a 50ds? Any assistance would be appreciated.
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