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Post by abgreenbank on Apr 20, 2014 18:24:34 GMT
Taking delivery of a new 50DS in a couple of weeks, would appreciate any advice/ tips on the handover and sea trial. This is my first yacht and expecting issues. It was supposed to be collected from the factory last week but the haulier didn't turn up! Communications between the dealer and haulier were blamed. New company will be collecting it on Tuesday, I hope. Delivery is in south of France, and boat will be moved to Gib for the summer. All very exciting.
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Post by abgreenbank on Apr 20, 2014 18:32:14 GMT
 Factory visit last month |
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Post by Zanshin on Apr 21, 2014 12:11:19 GMT
The handover of a new yacht is a great (and frightening) moment, particularly with such a big and complex boat such as yours.
There are two aspects of the process that need to be covered. The first is the financial and legal aspect, by taking possession you are accepting the boat so you really need to go over every factory option, standard installation and other items to make sure that they are indeed installed as agreed upon. The second part, which includes the sea-trial, is having someone show you how the boat systems function and work together - basically a training class that is several hours long. Even though this boat is my 4th Jeanneau, I learned a lot during my sea-trial/handover process and took pictures and notes.
There will most likely be some things that don't work correctly, or where things will need to be addressed or changed - that isn't exceptional in a big boat; but you do need to put those things down in writing. I'd check out the hull carefully for big scratches and dings that might not have been correctly fixed and for problems in the interior woodwork (particularly there, since after taking possession the dealer/Jeanneau really cannot know if you've found a problem that was there or if you created that problem and are trying to fix it on their dime).
During the sea trial get the instrumentation explained in detail, this will also let you see whether the instrumentation and electronics are functioning correctly and have been calibrated correctly.
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Post by alenka on Apr 21, 2014 13:19:37 GMT
I have only bought one boat brand new and lots of things didn't work as they should have. In retrospect I should have struck a deal with a surveyor to go over everything at the deliveru and handover stage. They spot far more than the average person and in the overall scheme of things it is a small price to pay to make sure everything is okay.
Don't you just love the small of a brand new boat?
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Post by abgreenbank on Apr 21, 2014 17:11:40 GMT
Well the boat is fully paid for and it leaves the factory( hopefully tomorrow), that's the dealers terms, it was against my better judgement but supposedly the money was held in a client account. When I visited the factory the boat was over half way down the production line, with its top on, it had lots of small red marker pen circle, all items to be rectified prior to leaving the factory and they were at pains to explain how after the production line the boat is moved to the next building where all the systems would be tested and faults rectified.
The standards at the Cholet site where all SO and Oceanis over 40 feet are made were very impressive.
The dealer has planned two days with himself and a hired skipper to cover all the systems. What I am more concerned about is, do I accept the handover with any faults or just a few minor snags, and what is acceptable or is not. No doubt I will be told some of the issues may be nothing to worry about (by the dealer), just wondering what issues I might expect and what is acceptable.
The dealer is UK based and the boat is being commissioned and delivered in the south of France, so once the boat is handed I feel a little vulnerable as after reading this site, the after sales service of some dealers appears variable.
All advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Post by chrisj on Apr 21, 2014 17:32:37 GMT
Firstly, congratulations.
I think you need to read the contract about "faults" and see what options you have.
Secondly I would definitely agree with the suggestion of you taking an INDEPENDENT surveyor and not rely on the broker, who's primary interest will be in completing a sale.
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Post by Zanshin on Apr 21, 2014 17:53:26 GMT
...What I am more concerned about is, do I accept the handover with any faults or just a few minor snags, and what is acceptable or is not. No doubt I will be told some of the issues may be nothing to worry about (by the dealer), just wondering what issues I might expect and what is acceptable... Unless something major is wrong (missing engine, mast on backwards, immobile rudder, etc.) you will accept the vessel - BUT - you need to protocol in writing all of the faults that you discover during the handover process and that the dealer will need to address in order to fulfill their end of the agreement. I thought about hiring a surveyor for the handover and it is a common practice on very large vessels, the kind that need crew and where the owner is merely a passenger. But I ended up doing all the checking, opening, looking and testing myself over the course of 2 days. This is my 3rd Jeanneau and the other two were bought using a surveyor and I doggedly followed their work on the previous boats, so got a feel of what they are looking for. The surveyor on a new vessel will ensure that the boat has been put together correctly, i.e. that stringers which should be glassed or glued into place are actually glassed or glued. A surveyor will not turn on and check the correct functioning of the autopilot; they will check for double-clamping of through-hulls and whether equipment is present but won't attest to the correct functioning of it. They will find incorrectly fastened or loose battery cables but won't know that 2 batteries are missing or that one of the batteries is much weaker than the others. All in all I think that as owner and skipper of my boat I need to know every item of equipment and each and every hole and niche in the boat and I was armed with camera, notebook, flashlight and 2 screwdrivers (one Philips, the other flat) when I went through the soon-to-be-mine new boat. |
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Post by Tafika II on Apr 21, 2014 19:04:22 GMT
We purchased our SO42DS new in 2007 and had it commissioned by the dealer. We did not have a surveyor. Three days before delivery was to take place, we did a very thorough inspection with mirrors to see the places where thing hide, cameras, voltage meters and phillips a straight screw drivers. One thing it is very import to ask, confirm and then recheck that it was done. Make sure ALL bilges that are accessible are checked for debris. It doesn't take much to clog things up if screws, cut-out pieces of wood and fiberglass dirt are left in the bilges. They should ALL be vacuumed clean.
After our inspection, we went over the list if items that needed to be installed, fixed or just tightened up. We had the yard, the dealer and sales person sign off that they were responsible to fix these items or pay a local dealer to fix them & that it they would be at no cost to us. We didn't have very many things as I was there during the entire commissioning at least once a week.
We wish you well. Taking procession of your new boat should be fun and exciting...it was for us and all the loose ends were taken care of.
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