Wheel brake on SO36i ?

[sitara]

Hi all,
My new SO36i (Model Archipel - launched 2012) was supplied apparently without a wheel brake, just with the hex locknut on a shaft with a threaded hole - see photo. I have not been able to find out from my agent if I am simply missing the Brake Spinner, or am missing the whole brake assembly that I assume mounts inside the wheel shaft. The steering mechanism appears to be Lewmar.

I have tried a Lewmar brake spinner (Lewmar model 89100143) from another boat which fits, but as its shaft was 50 mm long it did not reach the mechanism (if any) in the hub. Poking a screwdriver down the hole revealed its depth to be about 90 mm.

Has anyone had a similar experience? If I am missing just a brake spinner then I can hassle my agent. Or is this an end of model cost cutting exercise? I would like to keep the wheel locked when in the pen or at anchor so that the rudder and associated mechanism is not swinging about.

Rob

[j]

Has anyone had a similar experience? If I am missing just a brake spinner then I can hassle my agent.

Yes, ours (12/2008 36i) is the same.
The 'spinner' is basically just a rod that pushes against something (rubber?) inside the steering hub to lock the wheel.

I made one with a long bolt - with the end thinned for a couple of inches on the end - so it's the same as a brake spinner without the knob on the end, or the price!

To unlock the wheel we just use a spanner, I've been meaning to make a knob to fit it so it can be done by hand but haven't got around to it.

None of the 4 or so 36i's that I know have a 'brake spinner', nor do other models I've seen - so I'd say Jeanneau don't supply them.

I can take a photo + measurements if you want?

[sitara]

Thanks J,
I like the idea with the bolt, will give it a go. I should be OK without pics or measurements. I had a look inside the binnacle and it looks like the brake mechanism is fitted. At least what is there looks like the "Constellation bulkhead steerer" in the Lewmar catalogue which is supposed to include the brake mechanism.

[allegria]

Hi Sitara,

I have a 36i from 2010 and no wheel brake either. Reading your post, I went looking at the Lewmar catalogue (go to www.lewmar.com/products.asp?id=8466&lid=26198 and then click on "View in catalogue") and you will find that the model 89100144 has a shaft of100mm, matching the 90mm you have measured.
I haven't tried it at all but I wonder if this would be the solution. Let me know if you get one and if it fits, I will do the same
Cheers

PS: If anyone reading this post knows about this, feel free to advise...

[sitara]

Hi Allegria,
I have seen this link - not sure from the drawings whether the threaded section is in the correct place for my wheel. I am going down to the boat today to try a roughed up system. If that works I will probably have a go at J's idea.

Ideally I need to borrow a long shaft Lewmar spinner and see if it works.

[gecko36i]

Hi Elessar
Do you know any fitter machinists? as they can machine one for you on a lathe at a reduced cost. This is what I have done but will not be back at our boat till December to test it.
Gecko.

[sitara]

There is a wheel brake mechanism fitted to the SO36i. I have attached a photo of the inside of the pedestal showing the mechanism immediately behind the wheel. I roughed up a mild steel shaft and used an M10 bolt to drive it in to engage the brake mechanism. Being mild steel I was able to remove the shaft with the magnetic tip of a screwdriver.

Next step is to get a long threaded stainless steel bolt machined - now my brother has a metal working lathe...

[sitara]

Hi all,
Following J's suggestion I obtained a 100 mm M10 threaded bolt for the princely sum of $2.40. I ground off most of the thread with an angle grinder just to the base of the grooves leaving 22 mm of thread under the head.

It works like a dream, just a light tighten with a spanner and the wheel is locked tight. Next job is to weld a washer under the head and fit a knob so the bolt can be hand tightened.

[MalcolmP]

Very useful, I will have a look on my 39i if this can also be done on that model and will also put a note on the Hints and Tips section

[MalcolmP]

Sept 26, 2012 7:11:37 GMT MalcolmP said:

Very useful, I will have a look on my 39i if this can also be done on that model and will also put a note on the Hints and Tips section

Now at:
www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/wheelbrake.html

[sitara]

The final finished wheel brake. I had a washer welded to the underside of the bolt head and attached a wooden knob laminated out of some scrap hardwood. Works like a dream.

[Purple Mist]

I recently purchased a brake spinner model 89100143 from Lewmar for our SO36i and thought it was too short. I have not had chance to try it on the boat yet. On speaking to Lewmar they informed me a "slug" was required to be inserted before fitting the spinner. The slug was posted to me the next day.

[juanluis]

j,

The SO 409 is equipped with wheel brake by Jeanneu. Perhaps the wheel is the same and you can get spare parts from Jeanneau.
Juan Luis

[allegria]

Hi Purple Mist,

I wish I had seen your post before... I just bought the Lewmar brake spinner #89100144 for my SO36i from 2010. This is the longer version of the one you bought. The shaft is longer (100mm) however, the threaded part of shaft is too long to fit all the way in. It basically stops turning in 40 or 50 mm before it can reach the end.
I am posting this here to avoid someone making the same mistake.

Have you actually tried it on your boat yet? Is it working fine?
How long is the slug that Lewmar sent you?
Did you speak to Lewmar in the UK?

Cheers

[Purple Mist]

Hi Allegria,

I have not had chance to test the spinner yet. I spoke to Lewmar UK and found them to be very helpful. Unfortunately, I have gift wrapped the spinner and slug as a Xmas present to Purple Mist, but will measure the slug after Christmas. It will be about 40mm long.

[Purple Mist]

Hi Allegria again,
I have measured the slug and it is 28mm long. Still not been down to the boat as the weather over xmas has been too poor.

[Purple Mist]

Happy New Year all'

I have had chance to measure the "slug" as promised. It is 28mm long.

[chaika]

We have a 2010 36i and when at anchor we have been using a bungee cord around a wheel spoke and an arm of the instrument pod. When in the marina pen a longer bungee cord around a wheel spoke and the base of the whole pedestal holds the wheel. Simple.

[allegria]

Hello,

You don't have a picture of the slug by any chance?
I ended up making one with a 6mm piece of stainless steel, although can't recall the length but I know I need to trim it down as it is a bit too long. It did work though... it will have to wait for a rainy to adjust it!

[Tafika II]

Has anyone tried this on a SO42DS. It looks like the Lewmar 89100144 would fit my wheel and I don't have a folding wheel.
Any reply would be appreciated.

[pjtwigg17]

I have just done this on a SO42DS I purhased the longer Lewmar 89100144 however I found this to long so I had to shorten it to the same spec as the Lewmar 89100143 easy enough to do as the threaded bolt is only secured by two small tack welds, you do need the "slug" though, according to Lewmar these are 26mm and 32mm long respectivley for the 89100143 & 89100144 this I just made myself out of 6mm stainless bar.

[Pabeye]

Reviving an old thread.......

I recently purchased a 2007 SO 42.  No wheel brake knob.  I have read this thread carefully ( I think ) and no one has said if  the actual braking mechanism is mounted internally even though the knob is not there.  In other words, can I just add the knob and the wheel brake will work?  Thanks is advance.

PS I measured the length of the hole in the hub and it seems to be about 100mm..........I found this online I think it it the right one.  Your thoughts?

www.mauriprosailing.com/us/1-Lewmar-Wheel-Accessories/LEW89100144.html

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Tafika II]

I have a 2008 SO42DS. I purchased a Lewmar LEW89100143 wheel brake and had it cut down in length to fit. It works well. I do not remember how far it was cut down...sorry. I have an extra one if your are interested in buying it.

[Pabeye]

I think I need the one with the longer shaft.......(100 mm).........thanks though

[Tafika II]

Easy to check...stick a dowel or pencil in and measure the distance. If you have a Lewmar Constellation Steering system, then we have the same one. Let me know if I can help as I'll be on theta tomorrow and I can measure the length.