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Post by On y va on Feb 2, 2014 22:41:50 GMT
There is only one suitable place for the Amiot 1-meter traveler, and that's at the bottom of the slip! I say this based on 5 years with one on an SO34.2 and one year on our SO40. If your boat is larger than a 34, the Amiot must go. We had a Garhauer 1.5 m traveler custom-made for us a year ago, put it on before launch last spring, and could not be more pleased with its performance. (Yes, a Hints 'n Tips article on this replacement is "in the works".) I have most of the Torlon balls left when I removed the Amiot unit from our SO40, along with the car and end sheaves. If anyone needs these, please PM me and we'll see how we can get these out of my spare boat parts stock! --Karl I fail to see the problem Karl. The traveller on my SO40 works just fine and has been for 13 years now. But, you do need to maintain them, like with anything on a boat. This means taking it apart every other year. Functionally it works ok anyway. As the sheeting is half way the boom, the traveller only needs to be 50% of the length needed if the sheet was attached at the end of the boom.
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Post by so40gtb on Feb 7, 2014 2:41:36 GMT
Well, I did clean and lubricate the traveler regularly - and modified it on the SO34.2 to minimize line binding. There are several issues with the Amiot, from my p/o/v. First, the purchase is insufficient on a 40' boat. While it is true that the prior owner had the traveler rigged completely wrong, with only 2:1 purchase, we fixed that and still found occasions where we had to put the traveler lines on winches. Very rare now with the Garhauer. The second issue is depowering the main in gusty winds - we had to pull the traveler well upwind (and tighten the boom vang severely to ensure a flattened main) to get sufficient range with winds gusting from 15 steady to 25 kt peak. The 67% increase in length with the Garhauer lessens the need to do that. And we were able to increase purchase of the mainsheet readily without going to complex blocks. I'm not the only one who has tossed the Amiot.
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Post by erkan on Dec 11, 2014 13:51:59 GMT
hi all, I have a so40ds from year 2003. My traveller works fine so far but the plastic washer has gone (pls check the picture). I could not remove the ss pin. so; does it worth dismounting all the traveller as described above or can there be an easier solution for the missing washer? brgds, erkan Attachment Deleted
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Post by sailbleu on Dec 12, 2014 7:43:47 GMT
Erkan ,
definitely , and I repeat definitely remove the traveller , get it home , garage/workshop , and make a good solid base for the car so you can bash the pin out without breaking one of the sides , or even the slides underneath. I did that some years ago and all is well sofar.
Regards
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Post by chuckr on Dec 21, 2014 11:52:39 GMT
on our jeanneau ds40 the stopper on the mast end of the boom cracked and broke on a sail from cadiz to gib, had to relace the car. fortunately in gib the chandlery (forget name) ordered us a new one. in retrot spec i guess we could have gotten new ball bearings and tried to put it back together but not sure on it's long term viability.
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Post by sailbleu on Dec 21, 2014 15:56:37 GMT
on our jeanneau ds40 the stopper on the mast end of the boom cracked and broke on a sail from cadiz to gib, had to relace the car. fortunately in gib the chandlery (forget name) ordered us a new one. in retrot spec i guess we could have gotten new ball bearings and tried to put it back together but not sure on it's long term viability. Hi Chuck , that must of been Sheppard's chandlery. But euhhhhh , ....are we talking about the same topic here ? Please elaborate , as we sail the same type of boat. Thanks. Regards
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Post by chuckr on Dec 29, 2014 9:27:00 GMT
on our jeanneau ds40 the stopper on the mast end of the boom cracked and broke on a sail from cadiz to gib, had to relace the car. fortunately in gib the chandlery (forget name) ordered us a new one. in retrot spec i guess we could have gotten new ball bearings and tried to put it back together but not sure on it's long term viability. Hi Chuck , that must of been Sheppard's chandlery. But euhhhhh , ....are we talking about the same topic here ? Please elaborate , as we sail the same type of boat. Thanks. Regards Not exactly the same as it appears the internals of the car appear to be ok. But the stopper for some reason let go. Whe it did it slightly changed the diameter of the bolt hole and when i put it back in the bolt would not hold. had a guy in la linea cut 2 small alumium blocks, tap the and retap the bolt hole slightly larger and put in a slightly bigger bolt. EDITOR: Now published on Hints and Tips
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Post by tsenator on Mar 10, 2021 1:48:27 GMT
There is only one suitable place for the Amiot 1-meter traveler, and that's at the bottom of the slip! I say this based on 5 years with one on an SO34.2 and one year on our SO40. If your boat is larger than a 34, the Amiot must go. We had a Garhauer 1.5 m traveler custom-made for us a year ago, put it on before launch last spring, and could not be more pleased with its performance. (Yes, a Hints 'n Tips article on this replacement is "in the works".) I have most of the Torlon balls left when I removed the Amiot unit from our SO40, along with the car and end sheaves. If anyone needs these, please PM me and we'll see how we can get these out of my spare boat parts stock! --Karl Karl, I totally agree - these Amiot travelers are a 'piece of crap' I have a DS43 and have to replace it , its funny people say you have to "maintain it". I know if a traveller is designed well you really don't have to "maintain and replace things" like this . I had a Garhauer traveler on my last boat for 20 years and it worked flawlessly all the time - no "maintain or replace" anything . You said "you had a Garhauer 1.5 m traveler custom-made for us a year ago, put it on before launch last spring, and could not be more pleased with its performance. (Yes, a Hints 'n Tips article on this replacement is "in the works".)" I found your writeup , It was GREAT ! www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/Garhauertrack.htmlDo you find the ends of the longer Garhauer traveler tracks that leave a "long open end" sticking out is a problem ? Do people stub their feet or do lines ever get "hooked" under there ? THANKS
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Post by gray19 on Apr 10, 2021 8:50:54 GMT
Hi Folks, A word of warning on this miserable beast. I of course found my toggle siezed, removed the car being carefull to use a sponge shaped like the track to make the platinum, sorry torlon balls stay in place. The pin was so siezed it would move in the car but not the toggle. The toggle had worrying wear. Do I cut the pin with the dremel and wangled it out of there. Thinking that all I had to do was drill the pin out. Well checking the car I found that there had been galvanic corrosion close to the pin which effectively reduced the thickness from 5mm to almost 2mm. I'm not convinced that would handle 1300kgs of force and given the ends have galvo too, it looks like the recyclers for it all. So if you remove the toggle and substitute a shackle, take a good look under the edges of the car.
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Post by Charlie-Bravo on Apr 10, 2021 19:43:30 GMT
All my balls escaped due to a broken end cap on a harken traveller , looked at the price of toulon balls from harken .... ouch, then found a bearing wholesaler on line who sells torlon balls at 1/4 of the price , have a google, if you can't find any Ill dig through my unorganised paperwork to find the supplier. CB
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Post by jaminb on Apr 23, 2021 12:17:32 GMT
I to have a siezed car pivot. Probably a daft question but has anyone had any luck freeing off the pivot in situ? Heat, cold, acid ?
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Post by jaminb on Apr 25, 2021 20:23:53 GMT
i tapped my pivot with a rubber mallet and absolutely no sign of any movement. So I warmed up with up with an electric blow torch and she moved a little. more penetrating oil and plenty of levering the boom backwards and forwards and i can now get the swivel to touch the bump stops. I think a couple of drops of 3 in 1 every visit and plenty of crash gybes and we will have full, free movement back by the end of the season.
thanks for alerting me to the potential failure
ben
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Post by Don Reaves on Apr 25, 2021 23:36:46 GMT
Of course, too many crash gybes and you'll have more serious issues!
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