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Post by catawba33i on Jun 29, 2010 20:48:11 GMT
"Its Magic" is a 2010 33i. The standard boat does not come with a traveler. I am finding I am not happy with this set up. Has anyone converted to an after market traveler? Looking for ideas.
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Post by flightdeck on Jun 30, 2010 0:58:01 GMT
Must be Magic, the 33I looks great on paper, have not seen one yet, I hear we are to get one soon in our club. I have an SO32 with a traveler, it was already there when we bought the boat and I do think it's needed for good sail / boat control. There is another SO32 in the club, he has just fitted a traveler, using my boat as a guide, he is much happier with sail / boat control. System used is all Harken stuff like 1849 Track Riser, 1618 High Beam track etc, jammer's on each side for the traveler trim. 2 small S/S brackets were made to suit the holes left from the loops, to under the traveler beam giving more strength. Main advise is to make sure you can still fold the dodger (if fitted) down and the traveler can go past....ours can't  |
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Post by jiipee on Jun 30, 2010 19:35:12 GMT
I have the SO33i Performance version, so my boat has a traveller as standard. The placing of it is a little bit more forward than in most boats but the reason for this is the structure of the cockpit floor laminate - there is a strengthening around 30 to 40 cm ahead of the wheel pedestal. If you have a solid table, that should probably be changed to a swinging one as in Performance.
The boat is in general very good and behaves well in all circumstances.
rgds
JP
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Post by flightdeck on Jul 1, 2010 5:02:45 GMT
Hi catawba,
Hmmm, I just took it for a given we were talking a traveller on top of the coach roof, as jiipee point's out it could be in the cockpit too......don't trip over it ;D
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Post by vraireal on Jul 4, 2010 17:21:39 GMT
Must be Magic, the 33I looks great on paper, have not seen one yet, I hear we are to get one soon in our club. I have an SO32 with a traveler, it was already there when we bought the boat and I do think it's needed for good sail / boat control. There is another SO32 in the club, he has just fitted a traveler, using my boat as a guide, he is much happier with sail / boat control. System used is all Harken stuff like 1849 Track Riser, 1618 High Beam track etc, jammer's on each side for the traveler trim. 2 small S/S brackets were made to suit the holes left from the loops, to under the traveler beam giving more strength. Main advise is to make sure you can still fold the dodger (if fitted) down and the traveler can go past....ours can't Hello, Would it be possible to send a photo of your traveller arrangement with instalation details? Thanks, Real |
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Post by tedp on Jul 16, 2010 11:50:26 GMT
Must be Magic, the 33I looks great on paper, have not seen one yet, I hear we are to get one soon in our club. I have an SO32 with a traveler, it was already there when we bought the boat and I do think it's needed for good sail / boat control. There is another SO32 in the club, he has just fitted a traveler, using my boat as a guide, he is much happier with sail / boat control. System used is all Harken stuff like 1849 Track Riser, 1618 High Beam track etc, jammer's on each side for the traveler trim. 2 small S/S brackets were made to suit the holes left from the loops, to under the traveler beam giving more strength. Main advise is to make sure you can still fold the dodger (if fitted) down and the traveler can go past....ours can't :( Hello Flightdeck - I just joined the forum as we bought a 6 year old SO32 a few weeks ago. I was interested to read of your coachroof fitted mainsheet traveller. Our boat still has the standard sheet arrangement, but on our previous 23ft boat I used the sheet traveller quite a lot, especially in gusty weather. I think the SO32 may benefit from one as well. Would you please explain how exactly the rail in your boat is fitted to the roof, as I'm not familiar with the Harken parts you describe - were the existing sheet block fixtures in the roof re-used? How long is the rail on your boat? In my old (wooden) boat I built a rail on a hardwood beam across the cockpit seats. Perhaps a similar arrangement might work on the SO32's roof. As Real says, a photo of your rail might help. Thanks... |
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Post by flightdeck on Jul 26, 2010 2:37:42 GMT
OK, I will try to get my act together  I see catawba have started a 2nd forum re this, issue is getting urgent. Just need to tell you I can go on holidays with or without a camera and if I do remember it, it does not always get used  If you Google ,1849 track riser, then you will get an installation sheet from Harken, that will give you some thoughts on what I have, all while this slack a** digs out a camera. We have the traveller rope going straight down to the roof thru a 90 degree block and ending in a Spinlock jammer next to the factory fitted ones......yep picture tells a thousand words. Cheers From Mauri Pro Sailings pages Back to: Trimming Systems | Traveler Systems HARKEN Traveler: System 11 This system works well with a dodger. Triple control blocks give the traveler a 6:1 purchase. Ref. Qt. Description Small Boat Midrange Big Boat A 1 Traveler 3165 B 1 Control Tang 1512 C 2 Control Block 2640 D 2 End Control 1893 E 1 Track 3156 F 1 Dodger Block 1985 G 1 FTrack raiser 1849 H 2 Halyard lead block 1986 I 1 Cam Cleat 356 |
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Post by tedp on Jul 26, 2010 20:44:39 GMT
OK, I will try to get my act together I see catawba have started a 2nd forum re this, issue is getting urgent. Just need to tell you I can go on holidays with or without a camera and if I do remember it, it does not always get used If you Google ,1849 track riser, then you will get an installation sheet from Harken, that will give you some thoughts on what I have... Thanks, Flightdeck - the 1849 installation sheet is very clear and it looks quite neat. So I should use a high beam track on risers to clear the hatch curvature. Guiding the control lines through a right-angle and a spinlock jammer each side should be straightforward. The main issue remaining is where to attach the riser bases. You mention s/s brackets fitted in the holes of the former sheet block loops to reinforce the track. Does this mean your track continues across each bracket, extending over the halyard lines with the riser fitted on the outside? Is the roof strong enough to support the risers or am I right in thinking that the brackets supply most of the strength? Must be pretty hefty brackets. Thanks for explaining - Ted |
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Post by flightdeck on Aug 2, 2010 21:24:38 GMT
see if these pictures are any help, they are from the day when we signed the dotted line in the contract. Cheers  |
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Post by flightdeck on Aug 2, 2010 21:26:14 GMT
didn't do that right, here is the other one  |
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Post by flightdeck on Aug 9, 2010 21:19:47 GMT
Finally some "fresh" pictures ;D The spare jammer in the picture is used for the tack line on the Aso.  |
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Post by flightdeck on Aug 9, 2010 21:21:13 GMT
Here is one of the S/S brackets made.  |
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Post by flightdeck on Aug 9, 2010 21:22:17 GMT
Last one from inside the head  |
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Post by tedp on Aug 17, 2010 11:15:49 GMT
Hello Flightdeck - I just returned from holiday and viewed your photos. I now understand the need for S/S brackets fitted in place of the original U bolts for the sheet blocks. This is the strongest part of the roof and it's wise to use this area for load bearing. Your idea of guiding the traveller lines right down to the roof surface is another problem solved. My boat being tiller steered I can easily reach the mainsheet and the traveller lines under the hood. I think I can now copy your arrangement on my boat. Many thanks - Ted
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Post by aoifenauts on Jan 19, 2011 20:46:11 GMT
Hi,
I was at the London Boat Show this weekend looking at this very issue for my S032. The proposal I was given by a Harken rigger was identical to flightdeck's solution, a bridge and turning blocks to take the lines under the spray hood to jammers.
The practical problem described by flightdeck still needs to be solved - can the spray hood be folded down and the traveler slide as required? The tape measure and a wooden mock up should sort that out.
tedp, let us know how your traveler fit out goes this winter, with JPGs if you can.
Don
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Post by kise on Jun 24, 2011 10:44:20 GMT
Hello from NW Spain. I´m a new forum user and a happy SO32i owner. Have been looking for tips about the mainsheet traveller upgrade for over a year, and now I am decided thanks to this post and the flightdecks pics. First I thought about a cockpit install, but as someone said in this post, wife doesn´t agree...
Just would like to second aoifenauts and ask about the sailing with the sprayhood folded, any advice before getting into the installation? Just remembered I have some unused Thule racks from my previous Vauxhall Calibra that would suit very well for this, I will try prior to buy the Harken risers.
Thank you very much for letting me see this more clear.
Happy sailing, Paco
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Post by Anwen (Deep Joy) on Jun 28, 2011 20:10:44 GMT
Has anyone thought about a German mainsheet system instead of a traveller? I am considering doing this on my SO32, as it will be cheaper and less work to install. Still thinking about it and need to do some working out when I'm next up at the marina.
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